israel gaza war

well if the Palestinians get a pass for being radicalized due to Israel's behaviour, then a certain amount of racism and prejudice should be tolerable the other way too no?

isn't that what I keep hearing? idk if you've said that

It isn't black and white :) I don't think it's dishonest enough to be immoral to repeat that it's a genocide.

i disagree on the grounds that it's literally not a genocide

if "get a pass" means "don't kill them" then yes that is what I've said. Please don't kill Israelis or Palestinians or any human.

Nah dude, people are straight up justifying violence against Israelis, saying it's okay because of the oppressor vs opressed narrative, in which the oppressed is always allowed to use violence

this talking point has been super prevalent

i'm of the opinion that neither side should kill each other because of wrongs from the past either

I mean you kinda admitted it was in a few posts on accident but I'm already tired out typing this much. I'm too old for this shit

bro i got some bad news about human nature and it's track record in history

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sadly lots of people seem to think it's okay for Palestinians to go on murder rampages because Israel proposed unfair treaties to the UN and won't let them have a military (a policy decided right after the conclusion of war against said people)

it's funny because that statement is true for literally 4 different wars too

6 day war

yom kippur war

first/2nd antifada

it was after winning these wars that the policies were decided, I don't think I agree with people crying about how unfair they are. maybe don't start a war against your neighbors and lose if you don't want unfair terms, or to have a military.

My stance stated above is still the only way. Remove all sovereignty from Israel/Palestine and create three new states.

Egypt: bait the entire Arab world into a war of aggression against Israel to establish a Pan-Arab state

get obliterated

be the first to retreat

refuse to take in the refugees created by the war you just started

blame Israel

refuse to elaborate :sunglasses:

why would Israel lose all sovereignty in a 3 state solution? Israel would surely be one of the three states lol

it would be three sovereign states? why would Israel lose anything except some of their land

it will be true for 5 wars now after this shit is finished.

5 times the Palestinians have to negotiate for their rights right after losing a war they started. five times.

new nato exclusion zone battle royale just dropped. syria step aside

Man did I say it wouldn't or couldn't be one of the states?

They all lose sovereignty so new regimes can replace the current ones.

maybe,,,, they should try negotiating in good faith during PEACE TIME, so they don't have ZERO LEVERAGE

idk whatever we don't have to keep typing about this

i think we agree on a lot more than we disagree

and we've established that we're both anti-killing innocent people

good enough for me

I just don't think it's possible for there to be a peace negotiation among these territories with just like one power to mediate. Need a lot more powers in and out of the region to be involved and make real change happen.