language discussion of the day:
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My completed guarani answer, which I checked and a lot is pretty wrong
But if nobody else takes a crack at it I'll mark it complete in like a day or so and give myself a point for being the only one to attempt
Other open problems -
Aymara semi-open I just have to do it myself and check Krazy's answer
Here's what I have for fish at the moment
Black underlines are the simpler statements so should correspond to the simpler catches (only 1 type of fish caught).
challwataxa appears in every statement and is therefore probably "fish" or some other irrelevant sentence structure part of the phrase
mpiwa appears only in the compound statements (non-black underlines ones) so I am thinking it is the "and"
Then we have these words: Ma hacha kimsa paya
And these words: challwa -wa -lla -llawa
We can't drop the simple -lla as a connective sound because it occurs in one case before -mpiwa and in another case is absent
So those 2 sets have to identify 1, 2, and 3 and small, medium, and big but both have 4 different words to match to 3 cases. So we have to discard one as meaningless/connective word
From the first set, I start to think "hacha" because it appears in the first two phrases, which presumably describe different catches. But then we also have a problem in these two phrases that the challwawa is shared. So this could be where the lie comes in
(When I first saw this problem I thought it would be "My catch X" and "His catch X" where Ma = my and Kimsa = his, but this doesn't seem in the spirit of the problem)
Hacha is later absent from some phrases. It looks like "hacha" is dropped when the following word is "challwa" but when it is challwa -wa -la it's included. So maybe "hacha" is the plural and challwa means 1
Sentence 3 would disprove this.
Ma 1 ma hacha 1 -mpiwa challwataxa
Where I have just declared challwataxa, mpiwa, and hacha to be non-significant connector words. That leaves this sentence with two repeats of "ma challwa" and no other significant words, and we already have a necessary liar from this solve in sentences 1 and 2.
So instead I am going to assume sentence 3 matches catch a, ma is 1, then the signifier that there is a big fish here is either "-mpiwa" or "hacha"
-mpiwa won't work because it would mean all the compound catches have at least 1 big fish, which is not the case. So I will say "hacha" is big
ma challwa - 1 small fish
ma hacha challwa - 1 big fish
Went back and looked at everybody else's fish spoilers and realized you are all way ahead of me so I am flipping this
It seems like everybody basically got it. 3 points for Krazy for submitting a full and correct solve (after the correction), 2 for each of Nyte and Huber for figuring out the issues and basically solving it anyway. 0 points for me for posting a flawed problem and taking an extra week to get around to solving it
I was almost there - I needed to go back with my coloring crayons and realize my light blue wa occurred every time at the end of the phrase, so it wasn't significant. Then I had identified Ma as 1, hacha as big, and sentence 2 as the likely liar, but I needed to find lla as small, which is a little strange because it gets appended while hacha is a separate preceding word.
Flipping Guarani Verbs also. 1 point to me - I got the meaning of the language pretty well, but flubbed it when I had to write in the answers.
Remaining problems:
Might take a crack at Icelandic. It seems like more of a logic puzzle than a linguistics one
Here's my very weak attempt at an Icelandic family tree
It is almost certainly wrong I was mostly going off of vibes
Complications in this problem:
- there are 2 people named ■■■■■■
- there are two people named Jakob
- Presumably there is some set of rules here. I have ■■■■■■ Gurinarson Jakobson inheriting first the first name of his mother, then the first name of his father. Then, this pattern holds for Margret Steinunnardottir Jakobdottir (I was going to use Hrafn here but realized I messed up that part of the tree)
Question: Do they receive names by marriage? If we are supposed to distill hard rules here it seems fairly impossible as some people have only 1 last name (but presumably two parents)
They look like little mountain ranges! Cute!
Oh and Eva has no name association that would put her anywhere in the tree as far as I can tell
Fixed that part of the tree
Question 1 suggests that maybe the different name pattern between different siblings has something to do with birth order.
Question 5 suggests Rakel had children (my tree would be wrong in this case) - a child can inherit no names from parent
6 marries Eva to Christian
Love to get info from the questions
Why are we sending mp3s into space for aliens instead of a language model designed around talking to aliens so that the aliens can talk to us by proxy instead of waiting years for end to end communication
This is the linguistics thread right? So answer me that
Decided I had done pretty good and checked the answer on Icelandic
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My tree is mostly correct. A point that I picked up on in an earlier post suggests a minor change which - IMO - is not at all obvious.
Add the answer to question 1 to the family family tree. I think I know it.
Summary
Odds Bergmann