Linguistics Olympiad

Greek part 2

Summary
  1. hoi tōn emporōn oicoi
  2. hoi tu dulu onoi
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The order of the nouns is such a mind fuck. What a cursed language.

Guess it aint so bad if you think of it like a sandwich. (possessed article (possessor article possessor) possessed)

i fdont thikn so

One of us must be right, but one of us is backwards.

There is a "mu" syllable. It is む. And the syllable equivalent in Japanese is called a mora. I am still scrolling up to find the problem.

ooo
o..

are the vowels

...
.oo
ooo

are the consonants.

It's top left vowels and bottom right consonants

You will find the W- syllables and Y-syllables exceptional though. They always bring exceptions in Japanese. Also "shi" "chi" "tsu" are percieved as "si" "ti" and "tu" by Japanese speakers.

So this is samurai.

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There are more complicated syllables that I dont know how this system accomodates. Like consonant-y-vowels (ryu, myo), long vowels, or the glottal stop (a small tsu in the actual writing system)

Okay. I finally found part 2 up there.

Summary

Ah and looks like Nyte already answered it right. What was I even doing

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Everybody did good on the solutions to the Greek puzzle, Huber's was the correct one though.

To be honest I found this one hard.

Comparatively the romantic language one is very easy IMO, it's just copying the ends of words. Huber was the first to answer that one also (unless I missed someone)

Problem 5 - Huber is again correct, with Nyte's correction also accurate. I feel this one is kinda cheap

Your Samurai is wrong here actually (will let someone else correct) but I feel everybody should get points for solving things if they most likely did it without help even if somebody already solved in the thread

Btw I update the second post of the thread with all the problems each time I add a new one and I usually add context (such as: these are the ones that are unsolved)

And the third post contains explanations. For the Tenji discussion, the explanation of the Tenji has a wikipedia link. The point Nyte's making is lost on me, "i" is the only special character here (from the problem set) in that it can be paired with a consonant or without, and approaching the problem set this way everything makes sense, you don't need to think about mu or whatever. But if you read the wikipedia the language is actually more complex (all the glottals and long vowel stuff Huber was talking about) so maybe there's some point to be made there

I'll do housekeeping (figuring out who gets points, posting explanations, updating the OPs) tomorrow

For now I will just add a problem since all are solved currently.

Right now we have worked through 5 of 7 of the "easy" problem set. (Yes Greek was "easy.")

The remaining two are:

Problem 6

Problem 7

To me, they don't look easy.
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you couldve hosted a mafia game instead.

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People are engaged

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yep. kpis at an all time high. dan epok doesn't have to artificially boost the forum anymore.

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The Greek one was about how articles and nouns both inflect and require a specific order for genitive case, and inflect for plural based on their relationship in the genitive case. So the possessor and possessed both mark the plural and with different endings. That's a nightmare.

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That georgian one should be easy but I am walking atm

Yes I solved Georgian. There's a little trick

Lalana looks like another Greek (aka hard to me)