Music thread

That's definitely not me but you can assume as such from my straight words and music sure

Do as you please but I agree that the numbers aren't in your favor and you deserve all the leeway you want from all of us there. Don't let the rest of the forum know though, they may call me a simp!

Typical ban simpin in the music thread smh

Gonna give the new Tyler album a dedicated listen tomorrow

I anticipate greatness

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Disappointing

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Also disappointing

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I'd weigh in but i find cum town funny so im a lost cause, oh well

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Atleast the thread started off positively, as men who get caught up in redpill shit are definitely not treating women well.

We could close it I'm fine with that

But out of curiosity I'd wanna ask, do you see that impreg fetish posting as actually toxic towards women? Cuz "impregnation" is just the male sided view, but I think that kinda stuff is a two way street to me. It's not like he's suggesting poking holes in condoms or something. And it's not really a good argument to say this either but I think I feel fine about it when there are much more problematic kinks like pedo Necro beastiality even somnophilia and other stuff. This doesn't seem nearly as bad as those

Also in regards to that I think it's a problematic poster issue before a problematic topic issue. Like if plasma reads some shit and posts an offensive take on it I'm more inclined to believe he is the problem and not the innocuous thread that he chose to leave his shit take on. Same with jdance and others

This is especially the case when whatever garbage they type directly leads to a "bad turn in the thread"

I think you choose to neglect a lot of subtle behaviors just because it’s convenient.

Like, if someone expressing that they’re upset or uncomfortable with oppressive social constructs and bullshit is annoying or inconvenient to you, I think you haven’t done your fucking homework kinda deal. And most people just aren’t honest about that process of thought within themselves because it means you have to do the hard work of moderating your shit takes and that sort of change is less appealing than like actually being a better person at the forefront because humans suck at social/change.

The easier and probably more worthwhile thing is to just admit you’d rather be lazy and oppressive and let bygones be bygones. Youll get more straight up interactions that way, anyway.

You're totally right but hopefully I am not as big of a hypocrite as you might think given that I share the same beliefs about how people think in a narcissistic and lazy sense. I'd just say that if you think I am prone to this, you'd be right, but that applies just as much to you. What you're doing isn't really much in the way of critical analysis for improvement or helping us get towards a solution either.

It gives you a sense of self accomplishment to feel you are on the right side and announce it but that is almost the same notion that compels people on the opposite side to stay there, because they think it's right. And it causes a lot of inactivity in regards to putting a solution in place because compromising and coming up with a solution that works and is accepted by all is hard to do and do well, requires a bit of teamwork, so on. But outright attacking others for their beliefs is so much easier and continues to deepen the divide. So yeah I think that it's all pretty narcissistic to me and unless someone else wants to roll up their sleeves besides me I don't know if it can change.

Back when I tried to regularly jmplement social change for the positive, it was terribly received. Probably because some of the logic I put behind it and some of the stuff I did was dumb. So Im glad to take responsibility for the passivity you feel about implementing changes and trying to make a difference when you've seen it not go so well. But I want to believe that things change, nothing is really set in stone, we can continue to become better if we just try a bit, and that it's worth the effort. But if I'm the only one thinking that I don't wanna force it upon others because that isn't going to lead to the way I think things should be.

Continually holding onto these ideas that anything regarding gender is a two way street means you just don’t get the bigger picture yet.

You WANT there to be some true equality threads, socially speaking, but until you accept that basically all cultures are founded on inequality between sexes you will keep putting yourself in the position to view situations as more individualized ones and thus, as “equal” exchanges. You end up somewhere in the same camp as insom, for example.
It’s not about whether YOU want to not be sexist it’s about society and how the language of any given society or culture has sexist infrastructure that you can’t get rid of until you identify and apply these concepts in your own mind. And it will definitely throw you out of your comfort zone to do that. A lot.

There isnt an issue between isolated exchanges between two individuals; social pressures STILL apply to those situations so they don’t truly exist. It’s just that the scope of its(society at large) impact can be far less, of course. But it’s there. That’s what living in a society does or is

Delayed on hitting enter because at the vet

Bro it is not about being on the right side when you’re demanding people start breaking down the constructs that try to blueprint an inferiority. For you to think that is reeeaaalllyyy fucking twisted and I don’t know how to untwist it for you.

Is everyone okay