Anyway for the last scum (we won’t say who you are) it would be good if you kill me tonight and let matty decide in the f3 that way I don’t have to betray you and vote against you in the lylo
If you want I will tell you everything I thought over the whole game before the EOD today
Not that it will actually help you to have any of my thoughts
Alright, from the POV of you being town and magic scum, give me your take on the game. On D2 we have no votes on Nyte, magic feels he needs to put a vote down to move things along. Who is his partner?
Like if yns was his partner, why not have him keep the vote on instead of take it off like he did, forcing magic to scumread Nyte and get his hands dirty. Wouldn’t it make more sense for it to be both off Nyte at that point (magic+Sophie)?
I have no idea what you’re talking about
But I think you are right to reread the game and figure some stuff out
If we can actually make this day last until EOD I will do the same. Currently on a phone in the bus I’m not gonna go clicking thru the day 1 threads
My commentary is mostly based on vibes. Based on vibe you kind of have the scum figured without worrying about all this vote pattern wifom
It’s just funny because I’ve been doing vibes all game and been wrong
Here’s some commentary
Out of everyone in the game day 1, all looked town except LBJ. Everyone made a reasonable effort to look town or show town thinking
Lbj looked like he was playing his same scum game from 2 games ago when we were together. His defense was like: I’m being voted, I must be chosen. But the people who wanted him voted were all town telling (later we learned they were all town). It’s kinda like the people who stayed off these lynches were all scum who know how it’d flip and the ones who went all in on a vt were town who didn’t know better, just found him scummy.
It’s quite funny at one point LBJ said: I am chosen, kkat and BA are mafia. This makes him 0 for 3 (aka 0% accuracy) and this was his best attempt at a defense. Sorry bud - you have to towntell to live in this town.
With Nyte, again we had a game full of people towntelling and one person saying some crazy shit. Go back to her first post in the game. She’s freaking out about people making repetitive, pointless posts or something - but nobody is making repetitive, pointless posts. I’m just like, there is no way another town is reading the game this differently from me. She’s super upset over who knows what - it’s just a normal game. I figured she’s probably faking it (as it doesn’t make sense/didn’t have a town mindset) and I didn’t want to lose to this sort of emotional manipulation gameplay.
The Nyte lynch is a little more complicated because she ended up being chosen (quite funny then that she said in the thread she was confirmed non chosen - again, weird play gets you lynched in a game where mafia are towntelling well. I think this is ultimately a very healthy town environment for us all to be playing in and we should be very happy about lynching Nyte and LBJ). Let’s revisit the Nyte lynch mechanics when I have a chance to go back in the thread, but what I recall is yns and I both pushed for it, magic was on both failed lynches but wasn’t pushing for either one, and Dan sat out both lynches.
In terms of the current game environment, Matty is a lock town off of vibes and I’ve been assuming Dan scum off of vibes. He’s the one I don’t really want to betray as I think he’s been having fun with it but he’s being kinda lazy today (probably waiting for me to make a long post like this one and get myself lynched). I think he played a good scum game and his posts generally don’t like that scummy, but he’s just not really trying to win anything for town. This is do or die time and he’s sitting in the wings waiting for something to happen. It’s very consistent with his approaches on the lynches during the game as well.
For magic, I think it’s quite funny because he makes many posts that I think are better towntells than what Nyte was able to produce yesterday or what YNS and I are up to today. He’s very town vibes. He just happens to always have the right read to progress the game for mafia (and those reads change to accommodate what mafia need) and I think also the commentary of Ian and Nyte (more Ian than Nyte for misogynistic reasons) inclined me to guess he was scum going into EOD yesterday. But I think he played a great game and is a really strong scum player.
Now for YNS it’s very interesting because he actually scum tells. Telling matty you’re just sheeping his lynch is a scumtell. He’s been on Nyte all game. But weirdly I think he’s town because I just think his progression makes sense and he vibes as town.
There’s one interesting interaction between YNS and Dan (the one I screenshotted). It feels to me like YNS might have thought Matty placed a vote on magic and they could hammer, then Dan calls him a ■■■■■■ . (Not acceptable behavior from an admin.)
But anyway I think YNS and Dan can’t be it unless they’re mega trolling
My read is magic and Dan
Not that it’s worth much given my earlier readings and I also think it’s game losing to tell scum exactly how you’re reading the game going into lylo. If I’m wrong they know they can keep me in and I’ll vote wrong tomorrow.
But yea I do think we will end up lynching magic today and someone will have to pick between Dan and YNS tomorrow.
This is my life and thinking as a 0% player
It would also be funny if we lynched me
I was thinking about this. I feel I can’t lynch myself here as it would be openly game throwing and Rora would permaban me from his games.
But what’s the difference between me lynching myself here and Nyte and LBJ lynching themselves the days before? Just because it’s not the last day, it’s not gamethrowing?
It just doesn’t seem fair that some people get to throw the game and I still have to do my best, especially given how bad my best has been recently. It’s like asking a ■■■■■■■■ toddler not only to stop eating the crayons and scribbling all over the walls, but also to participate fully in a serious art class while his friends are sitting outside the window and eating crayons and pissing themselves.
Why do they get to play like crayon eaters while I have to carry the town like this? I can’t carry these crayon eaters like this for the rest of my life.
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One other comment on YNS
If I was going to play the game as scum I think I would play exactly how he played
Suicide one team member to kill a chosen and then let the other guy play low key and sort it out in lylo.
I could easily believe YNS Dan if not for the magic vote today. I think placing the vote was a misplay on magics part. But I do think my instinct is just that yns is playing as town despite the fact he fully scum blitzed it.
Nobody else wants to play today huh
Don’t have much to say beyond your gish gallop. Hope Matty sees it for what it is. Hope we lynch you then move to tomorrow.
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I reread the whole day 2
My conclusions are this
YNS actually often looks scum and dan looks towny
But the fact remains that YNS actually plays to move the game forward and win for town while dan looks more like he's playing to blend in and not get noticed
I think he played a super towny scum game tho I'm just committed to this read
And magic 100% looks townier than me
Conclusion: We should lynch me.
Finally some progress
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He does look townier than you sadly. Why would we vote you out if you’re town and you’re (supposedly) self-aware enough to see how that turns out?
Would you ever see me put a vote on myself? Never. I don’t ever give up.
We have a dilemma. Magic vibes much townier today, but in terms of mechanics, big_ass is town because magic would NK ian to protect himself. 90% of the time scum is magic because scum team including big_ass shouldn’t let me through knowing I’ll tend to vote BA while ian tends to vote magic.
If big ass killed you then wouldn’t it be likewise appear to Ian that it’s not me? Maybe it’s just wifom all the way down. I don’t think we can say what Ian said he would do yesterday he would do today.
All I can say at this point besides that I guess is like good luck and I hope you make the right decision: we kill him today and 1 of us has a coin flip tomorrow.
It depends on the player. Ian would tend to stick to his previous day reads rather than get wifomed I think.
Is this NK stuff really this hard for you to understand? It’s almost always better to play the odds.