Voter thread 2024

General
20572

Why would you want to pay more? You realize I am saying you will pay the same or more in taxes and for healthcare? It is just more money for the same. I see no benefit.

20573

My google shows that 50k to 100k earners pay more in taxes in LA than Toronto. In Toronto, your taxes give you health care coverage. So in LA you are paying hundreds more a month or whatever to have health insurance.

20574

That understanding is dumb. It puts requirements on medicaid that millions of American citizens will not fulfill so they will lose their health care. All to make room for billionaire tax cuts.

20575

No the Canadian healthcare system is in shambles. In the great US of A money talks. Impossible not to get good healthcare if you know who's palm to grease

20576

man who cant afford a place to live thinks he can afford american healthcare

20577

I can afford a place to live in LA ez

20578

I officially feel bad. He is too stupid to berate. Please god save this stupid little man.

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20579

Because I would pay a premium for superior healthcare if I had the choice?

20580

His father failed him. He could've gone pro.

20581

Nah impossible. Going up against NRG soon they have a budget of 2.5million $. I got $200

20582

Canoga park is not LA

20583

That’s the north part of the valley and also a ghetto

20584

Shut up KKKrackers

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20585

Greater Metro LA

20586

https://x.com/GrilleNeurones/status/1941642786043822294

20587

@huber
https://x.com/TomTSEC/status/1941503550447931881

20588

Thanks for clarifying! You’re asking about a cost-of-living comparison between the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) and Los Angeles County (LA County). Below is a concise comparison of living expenses in these two regions, focusing on key categories like housing, transportation, groceries, and overall cost of living, based on available data from 2025. All monetary values are in USD unless otherwise specified, using an approximate exchange rate of 1 CAD = 0.73 USD (based on recent data).

Overall Cost of Living

  • Los Angeles County is generally 24–30% more expensive than the Greater Toronto Area, depending on the source and specific expenses compared. To maintain the same standard of living:
    • You’d need around $8,262–$11,000 in Los Angeles to match a lifestyle costing $6,476–$8,800 CAD (~$4,727–$6,424 USD) in Toronto, assuming you rent in both cities.
    • Los Angeles ranks as the 80th most expensive city globally, while Toronto ranks 861st, indicating a significant cost difference.

Housing

  • Toronto (GTA):

    • Rent: A one-bedroom apartment in the city center averages $2,500 CAD (~$1,825 USD) per month. Outside the city center, it drops to about $2,000 CAD (~$1,460 USD). A three-bedroom apartment in the city center costs around $4,000–$5,000 CAD (~$2,920–$3,650 USD).
    • Buying: The average single-family home in the GTA was $1,026,703 CAD (~$749,493 USD) in January 2024, though prices vary by neighborhood. A $599,000 home in Toronto might get you a small condo or townhouse in less central areas.
    • Housing is a major expense, driven by high demand and limited supply, especially in central Toronto.

  • Los Angeles County:

    • Rent: A one-bedroom apartment in the city center averages $2,000–$2,500 USD per month, while outside the center, it’s around $1,800–$2,200 USD. A three-bedroom apartment in the city center can cost $4,000–$6,000 USD.
    • Buying: A single-family home in LA County averages $800,000–$1,000,000 USD, about 25% cheaper than Toronto’s equivalent in some cases, though luxury markets (e.g., Beverly Hills) are pricier.
    • Rent prices in LA are 48% higher than in Toronto, making housing a significant cost driver.

Transportation

  • Toronto (GTA):

    • Public Transit: A monthly transit pass (TTC) costs about $156 CAD (~$114 USD). The GTA has a robust public transit system (subways, buses, streetcars), making it viable to live without a car in central areas.
    • Car Ownership: Gas costs ~$1.6 CAD/liter (~$4.44 USD/gallon), and car insurance averages $1,500 CAD (~$1,095 USD) annually, among Canada’s highest. Total car ownership costs (fuel, insurance, maintenance) can exceed $750 CAD (~$548 USD) per month.

  • Los Angeles County:

    • Public Transit: A monthly transit pass costs around $100–$122 USD, but LA’s car-centric culture means public transit is less comprehensive.
    • Car Ownership: Fuel prices are high (~$4.50–$5.00 USD/gallon), and parking fees in urban areas add up. Car ownership is often necessary, with costs similar to or higher than Toronto due to maintenance and insurance.
    • Transportation is slightly cheaper in Toronto, especially for public transit users.

Groceries and Dining

  • Toronto (GTA):

    • Groceries: Monthly grocery costs for a single person average $350–$400 CAD (~$255–$292 USD). A family of four spends about $1,177 CAD (~$859 USD) monthly.
    • Dining Out: A meal at an affordable restaurant costs ~$25 CAD (~$18 USD), and a mid-range restaurant meal for two is ~$120 CAD (~$88 USD).
    • Groceries are 15.8–18.9% cheaper in Toronto than in LA.

  • Los Angeles County:

    • Groceries: Monthly grocery costs for a single person are around $400–$450 USD, higher due to California’s premium on fresh and organic produce.
    • Dining Out: Restaurant prices are 33.2% higher in LA. A mid-range meal for two costs ~$100–$120 USD.
    • LA’s food scene is pricier, reflecting higher costs for dining and specialty items.

Other Expenses

  • Utilities:
    • Toronto: Monthly utilities (electricity, internet, etc.) for a single person average $178–$287 CAD (~$130–$209 USD), depending on usage.
    • LA County: Utilities are slightly higher, averaging $200–$300 USD, though milder winters may reduce heating costs.
  • Childcare:
    • Toronto: Median childcare costs for preschoolers are ~$810 CAD (~$591 USD) per month.
    • LA County: Childcare is more expensive, often exceeding $1,000 USD monthly, contributing to LA’s higher overall costs.
  • Entertainment:
    • Toronto: Movie tickets cost ~$15–$18 CAD (~$11–$13 USD), gym memberships ~$50–$70 CAD (~$36–$51 USD).
    • LA County: Entertainment costs are higher, with movie tickets ~$15–$20 USD and gym memberships ~$60–$100 USD.

Income and Affordability

  • Toronto: The median household income is ~$85,000 CAD (~$62,050 USD), covering living expenses for about 1.3–1.4 months. High housing costs require incomes of $152,000 CAD (~$110,960 USD) to afford an average home.
  • LA County: The average after-tax salary covers 1.5 months of expenses, slightly better than Toronto due to higher local purchasing power (10.1% higher).
  • To afford LA’s higher costs, you’d need a higher salary, but job markets in both regions offer opportunities in finance, tech (Toronto), and entertainment (LA).

Conclusion

The Greater Toronto Area is generally cheaper than Los Angeles County by 16–30%, with lower costs for rent, groceries, dining, and childcare. Housing is a major expense in both, but LA’s rental market is pricier, and its car-centric lifestyle increases transportation costs. Toronto’s public transit and slightly lower living expenses make it more affordable, especially for renters or those without cars. However, homeownership in Toronto can be costlier due to high real estate prices.

If you’re prioritizing affordability, Toronto (GTA) is the cheaper option. If you have specific priorities (e.g., housing type, lifestyle, or job market), let me know, and I can refine the comparison! For more details on costs, you can check resources like Numbeo (https://www.numbeo.com) or LivingCost (https://livingcost.org).

20589

Dude LA sucks I don’t know why you think Canada has it worse than LA. Like Canoga Park is a shithole too you’ll be neighbors with sureno gang bangers

20590

If you took the worst area of Toronto it would be considered nice compared to the worst areas of LA

20591

It’ll take you like an hour to drive into LA from Canoga park if not more