Voter thread 2024

You are a fucking insane person

Hypothetically, do you think if that was actually happening, say if a brown person raped someone and the charges were dropped because they were brown and they got free housing and SNAP, would you think it was a good thing

Of course not. Thats also not happening. Take this fat L nazi fa ggot

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Domestic-violence-plea-to-let-CEO-avoid-11122810.php

A plea bargain that could allow a Silicon Valley CEO to serve barely two weeks in jail in his second domestic violence case has prompted outrage from his estranged wife, who believes the deal is too lenient and that justice is being thwarted by efforts to ensure her abuser isn’t removed from the country.

Prosecutors sought a conviction “that would hold the defendant accountable but at the same time not make the defendant necessarily deportable,” Welch said in an interview.

Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the majority, said, “Deportation is an integral part — indeed, sometimes the most important part — of the penalty that may be imposed on noncitizen defendants who plead guilty to specified crimes.”

Michael Schatzow, the chief deputy state’s attorney in Baltimore, sent a memo to staffers last week telling them to be cautious when deciding whether to prosecute undocumented immigrants for relatively minor crimes.

"Shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods" LMAO

yeah there was a whole wave of these super progressive district attorneys that got elected in cities across the country and they refused to prosecute low level crimes and gave people insane plea bargains. you can say these policies weren't specific to race but as we all know most "low level" property crimes and violent crimes are being done by minorities and they essentially got let off the hook for like 4 years until these guys recently got voted out of office. George Gascon here in LA was absolutely insane for like 4 years

don't know why Jdance is pretending like black people weren't literally getting away with murder a couple years ago

Wow an under 18 didnt get tried as an adult!!!

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All of these one off trials should really be reflected in the data

a 17 year old who committed a double homicide lmao

Old enough to have sex with the pizza man but not old enough to be held liable for a double homicide

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George Gascón, as Los Angeles County District Attorney from 2020 to 2024, implemented policies aimed at reducing racial disparities in the criminal justice system, particularly for Black and Brown people of color (POC). His approach focused on progressive reforms to address systemic biases, reduce incarceration, and promote alternatives to prosecution. Below is an overview of his key policies and their intended impact on Black and Brown communities, based on available information:

  1. Non-Prosecution of Low-Level Offenses:

    • Gascón directed his office to stop prosecuting certain misdemeanor crimes, such as trespassing, disturbing the peace, drug possession, loitering, and public intoxication, which he argued disproportionately affected poor and minority communities, including Black and Brown individuals. These offenses were often linked to poverty, homelessness, or mental health issues.
    • He emphasized diversion programs over prosecution for these low-level offenses, offering treatment and services instead of jail time to address underlying issues like substance abuse or mental health challenges. This was intended to reduce the criminal justice system's impact on marginalized communities, particularly Black and Brown individuals, who made up a significant portion of those arrested for such crimes.
  2. Elimination of Sentencing Enhancements:

    • Gascón prohibited prosecutors from seeking sentencing enhancements, such as those for gang affiliation or firearm use, which he argued disproportionately targeted Black and Brown defendants. For example, posts on X noted that 89% of those imprisoned under gang and gun enhancement laws in Los Angeles were Black or Brown.
    • His policy aimed to address racial biases in sentencing by reducing excessively long prison terms, which he viewed as contributing to mass incarceration, particularly among communities of color.
  3. End to Death Penalty and Life Without Parole:

    • Gascón ended the use of the death penalty, citing its disproportionate application to people of color (85% of the 215 people on death row in Los Angeles County were POC). He also prohibited seeking life sentences without parole, especially for juveniles, arguing that these practices were racially biased and did not enhance public safety.
    • He initiated reviews of existing death penalty cases to seek resentencing, aiming to address what he described as systemic racism in capital punishment.
  4. Juvenile Justice Reforms:

    • Gascón barred prosecuting juveniles as adults, citing scientific evidence that young people’s brains are not fully developed until around age 25. He argued that treating juveniles as adults, particularly in adult prisons, disproportionately harmed Black and Brown youth and increased recidivism.
    • His policies focused on rehabilitation over punishment, aiming to reduce the long-term impact of the justice system on young POC.
  5. Diversion and Reentry Programs:

    • Gascón expanded diversion programs to redirect nonviolent offenders, many of whom were Black or Brown, toward treatment and community-based services instead of incarceration. He argued this approach addressed root causes like poverty and trauma, which disproportionately affect communities of color.
    • He established an Advisory Board of formerly incarcerated individuals to inform policies, aiming to incorporate perspectives from communities most affected by the justice system, including Black and Brown populations.
  6. Police Accountability:

    • Gascón pledged to hold police accountable for misconduct, particularly in cases involving excessive force against Black and Brown individuals. He reopened investigations into police shootings and supported policies to reduce pretext stops, which disproportionately targeted Black and Latino communities.
    • As a former police officer, he acknowledged implicit bias in law enforcement and sought to address it through policies like reviewing past cases for racial bias and advocating for stricter standards on police use of force.
  7. Addressing Implicit Bias:

    • Gascón recognized implicit racial bias across the justice system, including in the "adultification" of Black girls, who are often treated as more adult-like than their white counterparts. He proposed working with community organizations to address this issue and reduce disparities in how Black and Brown youth are prosecuted.

Impact and Outcomes

  • Support and Criticism: Gascón’s policies were supported by progressive groups and activists, such as Black Lives Matter, who saw them as addressing systemic racism. However, critics, including law enforcement unions and some prosecutors, argued that his policies reduced accountability for crime and contributed to rising crime rates, particularly in Black and Brown communities that faced high victimization rates (e.g., Black people made up 8% of Los Angeles’ population but 24% of hate crime victims).
  • Data on Prosecution: In 2021, Gascón’s office filed felony charges at rates similar to his predecessor (53.8% for serious/violent felonies vs. 54.4% under Jackie Lacey), but misdemeanor filings dropped significantly (43% vs. 86% under Lacey), reflecting his focus on reducing prosecution of low-level offenses that disproportionately affected POC.
  • Electoral Outcome: In 2024, Gascón lost his re-election bid to Nathan Hochman, who campaigned on reversing many of Gascón’s progressive policies, citing public concern over crime. Hochman emphasized enforcing laws without racial bias by removing ethnicity from investigative reports before filing decisions.

Recent Results

  • Gascón’s policies were part of a broader progressive prosecutor movement that faced a backlash in 2024, with voters in Los Angeles and other cities (e.g., Oakland’s Pamela Price) rejecting progressive DAs in favor of more traditional approaches.
  • Critics argued that while Gascón’s policies aimed to reduce disparities, they led to perceptions of leniency, potentially undermining public safety in communities of color. Supporters, however, maintained that his reforms addressed root causes and reduced harm to Black and Brown individuals by prioritizing rehabilitation over punishment.

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If you need more specific details or analysis of a particular policy, let me know!

very true. in Jdance's worldview they're considered an adult when he wants to fuck them, and a juvenile when they murder two people at random

That is precisely correct

this guy Gascon strategized his entire prosecution on letting black/brown people off on crimes he determined weren't that bad.

You don't even need AI. I just asks them to "consider" something. He's a dunce.

Seems like you guys are mostly just here to argue for the thing you already believe. I don't see a lot of productive discussion that could come out of this.

You're correct about everybody except for me

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And me.

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Contrarian fallacy. You think that sitting the fence between positions is a virtue. In reality the dichotomy is clear and your personality is an attempt to feel self worth.