Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations book commentary

nobody who actually cares about these types of things care about your "common sense stance"

No it fucking isn't and that isn't a justification.

Hint: QM is absolutely a rejection of common-sense physics. So is particle physics at large. So is GR. So is almost all of mathematics

do you think the advent of understanding quantum mechanics added significantly to our understanding of perception or the sensory experience?

this is weird because i thought it was kind of mainstream for science. like, things that are scientific are exactly that which can be tested by experiment, at least in principle. things that cannot be tested, like "god created the universe exactly as it is just now" and such, are not scientific.

maybe i am wrong and have the wrong idea. thats possible.

well, i'm at peace with that reality.
also i was meaning that the discussion necessarily has changed with my entrance, and lbj's. there is less focus on the dynamic of the three of you, as two other players entered the field. the sequence of responses are broken up a bit etc

Testability has nothing to do with sensory experience holy shit

I’m not a player I’m just an observer

this is a spurious connection. common sense physics is wrong. useful sometimes, but wrong.

im not even saying that my common-sense stance on what questions to think about is necessarily right. im saying it should at least be comprehensible. because i think its fairly common.

And wow, you finally got to the limits of knowledge that can be generated by empiricism. That only took 5 days.

ok thats fine then throw away the word sensory experience i dont need it.

how did sensory experience even come up in the first place again idr

YES YOY FUCKING DUMBASS SO YOUR COMMON-SENSE INTERPRETATIONS CONTRADICT THE FUCKING PARADIGM OF EPISTEMOLOGY YOU KEEP JACKING OFF TO

uh huh. further i declare knowledge that cannot be generated by empiricism like "did god create the earth as it is just now" are generally not worth consideration.

if they do why dont you tell me why they do?

I tried to hijack into some Phil of religion but realized I can’t be arsed to have that convo with hbotz when his conclusion is already acceptable

when we all fall asleep, where do we go?

that was supposed to be a reply to lbj lol

What do you mean by “we”

Hbotz using words that he doesn't understand talking about topics he doesn't understand. He said some dumbshit like "why care about interpretations of QFT if it doesn't affect my sensory experience."

And even after throwing out that term, his argument is still fucking asinine because the interpretations fundamentally give physical meaning to QFT. It's absolutely absurd he thinks this shit