the rationale is go read the material
that's where the rationale is
Of course you didn't see the answer to these questions, because it's the last section of the article.
Does hbotz even know what second order means
Does he know what first order means
i thought that was really obvious but
you're right, maybe it wasn't and that's the issue.
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First order logic D haver here btw
It's absolutely hilarious that he's saying the article didn't answer these questions because the entire last section is about answering these questions. Once again proving he won't put in the effort to read a fairly short wiki article
i didnt say the article didnt answer these questions. if the article answers those questions then that is good.
Yup
Then read the fucking article so you have the absolute minimum baseline of knowledge to engage in a conversation about it
im the one asking for a illustrative example. now that the context of the illustrative example has been explained and illustrated i am satisfied with the example.
you could have also told me no i dont want to explain an example to you go read the article. that would be fine too.
This shit is just awful
The worst part is I pulled up the wiki to refresh my knowledge of the matter to make sure I wasn’t misleading him on these things but now I think
Fuck what if I just said meta ethics was one thing and he just accepted that and went back to his circle jerk with bad info and (unlikely) one of the people in his circle knew about this shit and owned him
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You shouldn't be fucking satisfied. You still don't even have the slightest amount of knowledge that allows anyone to have a productive discussion with you on this subject. That's absolutely clear and you've made it absolutely clear that you have put absolutely no effort in to attain that baseline of knowledge. Reading one wikipedia article isn't that fucking hard or time consuming
People did say that.
you can also tell me you dont want to give me an example because you dont think it will be useful to me. thats fine too.
Nothing will be useful for you until you put in the bare minimum effort of reading a wikipedia article.
I put out a normative ethics claim
Said it was normative
Tell you to read up on meta ethics
You “do”
Approach the normative claim like it is a meta claim (unsuccessfully btw) and then get absolutely stumped when I question your meta choices about attempting to work through it
all i wanted was a motivational example. since i dont believe in any direct answer to the question i just took it apart as i thought i was intuitive and asked what you had to say about it.