Literally every second you guys spend talking about this is a waste of time. Read a book on physcis
Imagine Joe Rogan reading these posts. Sad
real simple
freedom and liberty applies to everybody
freedom from hatespeech and harassment is something that nearly every first world country on earth provides for its citizens, but not in the great US of A! you can set up shop outside an abortion clinic, a funeral, or a black church if you like!
you can hold a proud boys rally any time you like
and while the freedom of those holding said proud boys rally seems to matter so much to you, the freedom of everybody else who has to walk by that and be subjected to hateful nonsense that can potentially ruin their day doesn't seem to occur to you
absolutist free speech is an inherently american idea, and like so many of your brilliant ideas it is flawed
that's not even addressing the literal DIRECT link between hatespeech and violence against minorities
or the fact that it takes no nuance or understanding of the world to fall victim to
it's quite literally dangerous and groups like antifa are trying to shut it down, I'd join them if I could
why don't you pop open a dozen or so articles on genocides and see how often hate speech figures into them (it's all of them)
the freedom of an individual to be not harassed or subjected to hatespeech is far more important than the freedom of a person to espouse it
and your use of 1984 jargon is fucking cringe, please stop. it hurts.
talking about "doublespeak" when the president you voted for has co-opted the word thug to mean "literally anybody doing anything I don't like" and the word riot to mean "literally anything bad happening in any gathering no matter how many people were there and how respectively few of them did anything bad in the first place"
fucking doublespeak
give me a break
wow, so deep
Aren't you two on the same side?
your two party system has brainwashed you into thinking there is always, without fail, "two sides to every story" and "two ways to approach something" when the concepts of right and wrong DO actually exist. not always, and not in black and right, but this erosion of the difference between right and wrong is a direct reflection of the two party system you guys are married to
he's auth left and I'm lib left
Idk what that means where do I find out my stance
being against hatespeech doesn't make me a fucking authoritarian dude lol
this is what I mean by American brainwashing. what you just said. that's exactly what I'm talking about.
you have a fundamentally flawed view of how a society should function because you've been raised to worship a 250 year old piece of paper without question
No insom, you don't understand the two party brainwashing
The two party brainwashing convinces people there's a "good side" and a "bad side" instead of the reality - which is that there are a lot of bad people on both sides, and also some good on both sides
You're the one who is convinced the evil in the world stems from republicans/Trump while thinking if we could just get these lefties into power (who also happen to be evil) and ignore the "dangerous voices from the right" all would be well
No I'm just not fucking blinded by years and years of normalisation. It's me and the entire rest of the fucking world that sees the Republican party for what they really are, and it's you who thinks that means everyone else has been 'brainwashed'.
You: speech is violence (auth left)
Label speech you don't like/agree with as hate speech, try to say it correlates with genocide
Guess what actually correlates with genocide: victimization ideology and vilification of certain groups of people based on "tribe" - tribalilsm
I literally don't think this at all. What is this nonsense strawman.
I just think you should vote for Joe Biden because this Trump fella is a real dangerous piece of shit
Dude if you're just going to sit here shamelessly strawmanning me I'm not gonna keep responding to you
I'm saying there is a direct link between hatespeech and violence, because there fucking is one
That's a fact, not an opinion
You and people like you are the reason Trump was elected
And you'll never understand it because you don't understand the world and are resistant to learning
What a vague and pointless thing to say
What are you trying to accomplish here?