Artifact Release Party

a2pas · November 18, 2018, 4:37am

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Rootzzz · November 18, 2018, 7:50am

this games actually not good i think

big_ass · November 18, 2018, 1:01pm

https://www.facebook.com/notes/richard-garfield/a-game-players-manifesto/1049168888532667

Here’s the full Richard Garfield monetization blog, which I have not read

I think it’s fairly dumb but I also think they are trying to do something new with this game and redditors are all mad because they don’t really understand it. I’m going to give it a chance (not buying any packs but at least not assuming everything’s just a cash grab) and see what comes of it

Nmagane · November 18, 2018, 1:02pm

I think the redditors are mad because there are people who just post “Your Not The target Audiance” and “Good. I love this game because I Don’t Have to Grind” every time someone points out how something is just Not Good.

big_ass · November 18, 2018, 1:36pm

Sounds like you might be a redditor

Nmagane · November 18, 2018, 1:38pm

Hahahahahahahahahaha yeah i am

big_ass · November 18, 2018, 2:52pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/Artifact/comments/9y6gqp/event_tickets_are_too_cheap_to_incentivize/

Please upvote my thread on reddit

big_ass · November 18, 2018, 2:58pm

Honestly I think they will probably add a user-made draft

Maybe with a gimmick like it exclusively uses cards from that user’s library

And you can only draft once to be part of that tournament. Make it like those MtG closed pack things (whatever that is called)

big_ass · November 18, 2018, 3:00pm

The problem’s with the way they designed draft. They are making it like arena where you just grab some random cards and then go fight other random decks or just sit on your deck for a while

It needs to be that you’re drafting cards from the same pool of cards as the people you’re going to be playing against so you can do stuff like evaluate whether you should grab a strong card that has no synergy in order to block it from getting picked up in somebody else’s deck

Pheonix · November 18, 2018, 4:43pm

That’s what user tournament drafts should do. You draft against the x number of people in the tournament. But I doubt it will be like this.

Imo the problem is they’re trying to bring it back to paper card games, a practice that widely depended on kids getting their parents to buy overpriced packs that had an insanely low chance of being worth anything. It’s just as predatory as relying on whales. I really don’t see the difference between this model and hearthstones lol.

Pheonix · November 18, 2018, 4:44pm

They don’t even need to make user drafts always free you could just give everyone who owns artifact a free ticket a week and most people would be a lot happier.

Pheonix · November 18, 2018, 4:45pm

But they’ll never change how easy it is to get rarer cards because it’s extremely bad for business. The more individual cards are worth, the more money they make on each sale in their own market. That’s the main idea for them, imo. Keep the rare cards worth 30+ so Everytime someone sells on they get that nice 15%

ilmemmerdelui · November 18, 2018, 5:06pm

If that’s the logic we’re going with it can also be said there will be regular forced meta shifts to encourage regular, high volume buying/selling of low/mid cost cards as well. I think they just want you to buy shit and spend money as a general trend.

REFPSI · November 18, 2018, 6:39pm

Cash grab card gaming. when they think we aint learn from yugi-oh and pokemon cards

big_ass · November 18, 2018, 6:58pm

I’m hoping Valve makes no changes (except maybe removing the default heroes from packs and announcing that they will have a draft mode to run with your friends) so we can see the actual effects of this economy model before making any decisions

Reddit Rage assessments are almost universally wrong but Valve is also known to cave (especially if some dumb redditor starts a big thread proposing people Email valve’s offices or otherwise interfere with their business)

big_ass · November 18, 2018, 7:03pm

supposed to link @ ?t=2h17m46s

nmamane · November 18, 2018, 8:28pm

i think singsing does drugs tbh

Nmagane · November 18, 2018, 9:00pm

We want to take a few minutes to talk about some of those missing features now:

There was no way to do a draft event with friends. We didn’t prioritize this play mode, and had planned to enable it sometime after release. We’ve heard your feedback: drafting with friends is a core part of what you want to spend your time doing in Artifact. In the next Artifact beta build, you can select Call To Arms Phantom Draft in any user-created tournament.
There was no way to practice the draft modes without spending an event ticket. Drafting is incredibly fun, but can also be very intimidating. We agree that it’s important to have a way to practice before venturing into a more competitive mode. In the next Artifact beta build, everyone who has claimed their starting content will find a Casual Phantom Draft gauntlet available in the Casual Play section.
There was nothing to do with duplicate starter heroes. We’re adding a system that allows extra, unwanted cards to be recycled into event tickets. This feature will ship before the end of the beta period.

sdadasdas · November 18, 2018, 9:01pm

The game is not that fun to watch. I hope it’ll be more fun to play.

Nmagane · November 18, 2018, 9:02pm

It’s probably not fun to play either but it’s not like games these days are very good. At least it’s something.