Day 1 - Don't play this set up it's bad

if he was fake sheriff sheriff would cc and cop would check one of them for a free scum check

:cosmicbrain:

nevermind that i'm mod confirmed

im not falling for the morangutang tier take = towny any more

thank you @sdadasdas for enhancing my mafia gameplay

i hate taking this line of argument but i don't think ewiz is stupid enough to make the argument he's making in earnest

same he saw it work for klaze and is trying it thinking we're gold fish with no working memory

i also scumread gwez for his post about playing safely as mafa, which seems to be exactly what HE is doing

BuT wAiT yOu CaN’t ShOoT i’M sHeRiFf

Works every time it works

oh wait wtf the sheriff is a day shot i forgot, what is ewiz even doing... the sheriff could kill you whenev er HAHA

Cringe mod confirm though this is why all host questions should be in PMs @faZ

he could have been town fakeclaiming as cover or something...

it isnt the biggest of deals cause obviously real sheriff would just kill ian if he was scummy

sheriff gets confirmed when he shoots though.

if it's a fakeclaim sheriff thinks it's more important to keep hidden than get ian out

got anything to talk about besides mechanics mr mafia

i'm gathering my thoughts on ian's claim right now. will post soon

town ian strat 1: fakeclaim to protect sheriff, bait a mafia shot. not clear on whether the blacksmith vest works the night it is given but either way he has protected sheriff. the gamble is that sheriff is smart enough to not CC or shoot (which would kill a town but also out him).

town ian strat 2: claim is real, the gamble is that blacksmith vest will protect him from the n1 mafia kill. i assume the strat going down the line would be to clear and protect the PRs while weeding out the 3 scum from the remaining 6 players using sheriff shot + lynch. if both cop and sheriff are outed d2 but blacksmith stays hidden mafia has .5 killpower vs town's 2 assuming they hit the sheriff and removed his vest n1. if sheriff is vested and stays that way into n2 and blacksmith vests cop then mafia kill only serves to narrow down the pool of possible scum.

scum ian strat: fakeclaim to bait CC.
essentially trading out 1 scum to out sheriff.
if sheriff outs blacksmith will guard on him, and if the vest works same night mafia doesn't get the kill. either way 1 scum dies, either by sheriff shot or lynch.
this is assuming sheriff takes the bait and CCs.
if ian's claim is fake, right now the sheriff knows that he is either being protected by a fakeclaiming town or being baited by scum. either way the play for him is to remain hidden.

given all that I disagree with ewiz. if i'm correctly understanding the mechanics of this setup ian's claim play right now is viable as town whether or not he is sheriff and sub-optimal if he is scum.

bbl dinner

That's exactly what I just fucking said

didnt read

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There is zero reason for actual sheriff to claim without shooting here. Ian claimed at the start of the day and said we should just rush day 2, no lynch, no shot. I figured he was town fakeclaiming to cover for actual sheriff and waste a nk on VT.

But then he does the fake shooting thing. He does that to try to bait out a dumbass counterclaim. Look at the last game: I made a very obvious fake claim of doctor immediately day 1 to cover for the actual doctor. But then @bazingaboy is too fucking stupid and actually counterclaimed. We're playing with a group of morons: dienda is right when he posted:

So, why did ian claim a shot if he wasn't actually shooting? Why did he claim sheriff if he doesn't want to shoot day 1? His flip from "rush day 2" to "fake shoot ewiz" doesn't make sense as town, regardless of role.

hey dumbass i only claimed cause i was 1 away from hammer for the SECOND TIME. I didnt cc cause of your claim, but i needed to get it cleared up cause why not after im forced to claim?

dont be salty cause u got caught let's all be friendly and enjoy a nice game of mafia :slight_smile:

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