https://www.dota2.com/wanderingwaters
Discuss.
Its new different everyone going to hate on it for a bit. Rosh back in his classic spot sorta
Trying to speed up the game play it looks like
Absolute garbage.
Looks very interesting. But I stopped playing dota. I miss being young and enjoying dota . Nowadays I hate the game.
Arc warden rework for runes to give perma stats is really funny and the clone getting runes is pretty cool.
Rework on glepnir was overdue, item seems terrible now.
Phylactery is interesting for a roaming support with a long range shot but the cooldown increase is brutal for the cost.
Anyway I got sick of them changing the core identity of heroes and reworking them to basically fundamentally change the game despite the outer shell appearing the same. It's like if you made a knight in chess move L with 3 squares instead of 2, or limited the squares queens can move, or give bishops pierce or someshit .
You can spend your time finding a strategy or niche only for it to get totally trashed and even removed. I made my rant a long time ago about why a game like CSGO can still be popular because the game doesn't change far from its fundamentals unlike dota which has become more league of legends like over the years by aiming to shorten the game and make features that cater to improving the watch ability of the game versus focusing on the enjoyment for the player and making sure the game is fun versus fun for broadcasting and streaming.
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Dota was never a good game. League has always been better. Turn speed 
league actually has the opposite approach. they balance around pro scene of course, but most of their consideration goes into the meaty midwit volume that makes up the majority and they put WAY more effort into making sure the average player is having a good time
they probably have a bigger team and much clearer internal metrics to do this, but still. most of the shade a dota player could throw at league regarding softer points doesn't really apply to league.
for example now they take "core identity of heroes" pretty seriously because they know people will quit their game if the change that. They do nerf strategies, but they do the same exact dumb shit as dota beyond that too -- ever notice how arcana-having champions tend to be well-buffed around the time of arcana release? and when they aren't, they don't correlate to great sales. they're no different from league in a lot of those soft spots
in fact the monetization is even greedier in dota at many points. riots been trying to take away free skins and the community has been rioting lately. Dota players dont really get free items like league players, and if you want to see camp timings or supplemental info in league its free with a thriving ecosystem -- versus dota pushes you towards paying for dota plus.
one of my favorite differences is how league aims to give positive reinforcement for being good via the honor level system, versus dota is entirely designed around negative reinforcement -- talk shit and your behavior mmr will dip and it will immediately affect who you play with. Does it make sense that a hypercompetitive game takes into account how people type when serving them what should be a very well balanced and hopefully enjoyable match?
definitely ignites a nostalgic aspect with rosh pit in the middle of the map
I got bored and just hitting random in turbo enjoying again
I think enforcing behavior and giving time outs is a pretty good approach to making people act more civilized. I was an ape before when everything was uncensored like that 10 year old kid saying people are dumb nigs etc.. When there were no guard rails I just went off. Once I started getting time outs and bans for being a toxic piece of shit I learned to reel it in. Going back and reading my posts on mafiascum is hilarious what a fucking asshole I was. I think it's about enforcing life skills to gamers to act like civilized human beings even on the internet or at least try to.
Idk why they just keep changing stuff. I liked when their design philosophy was like small tweaks when they were still bringing guys over from wc3. Annoying that the game changes massively once a year now. Not that I’ve played it in like two years… too busy making money and having sex.