fuck the police general

Black guy always first to die in a movie

definitely still going to report you and see what happens.

People aren't being gunned down in the streets and statements like "excluding violence from productive change is dangerous" are dangerous - in that they erase the history of violence in unproductive change

iah it's mega concerning how many young people these days think violent change is a good thing. It's not what America is about. This idea that you can't talk and have a conversation with people on the other side of the aisle and instead have to shut them down and force your view with violence is distinctly un-American and really speaks to our collective institutional failure that a vocal minority can grow around this view

This is essentially the failure of the entire thought process here

Destruction is regressive, not progressive

And it's quite funny that you cite burma because it's a perfect example of the failures I'm describing and the way violence & totalitarianism can grow in the internet age

Martin Luther King: Let's go downtown and smash windows, throw fireworks at cops. Remember to take as many TVs as you can carry from Best Buy.

This is what left-fascies actually believe

i mean i fundamentally agree with what you are saying but i feel you are disconnected from human relations. people don't think rationally there is a lot of backwards progress throughout history and it is often self destructive/defeating but it is part of who we are. i feel like you're trying to think about this like everyone is ready to step forward in progress within a generation or a protest or an election. maybe our differing perspectives is in how advanced human psychology is at this point, if it will ever advance before we paste ourselves

true we are less violent than ever before but i attribute that to less aggregate poverty/hunger/thirst rather than human beings evolving to being able to value humanity as a whole

the burma thing was poor i admit, i know guys working over there with the rebels and kurds in syria so maybe i'm jaded

I think you're disagreeing on some conceptual level about human nature/history which I won't necessarily disagree with but I'm more focused on the current moment - in which a significant part of the mainstream has fallen into some sort of vague support of burning courthouses, attacking cops, general destruction and looting - because they view it in some twisted way as productive social justice

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Removed it for personal info but my point is I see how it grows

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They believe in that stuff. The general public believes in genocide

i think we can find common ground on the basis that things can't be fixed overnight though (so often our 21st century minds believe). just what we tolerate as the methods of change?

you ever watch porn made for women? 2 guys basically its actually pretty good shit

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you ever have 2 guys come into your house and run you through for a sack of potatoes?

what does that have to do with anything?

I suppose. It's not even "tolerance" though - it's not that I am pushing back on somebody's method of change as if it's "too far"

It's that these methods of change aren't methods of change at all, they aren't productive, they aren't helping people or resolving any of the issues, they are just destroying things and alienating the people who would actually support legal reform

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Yeah sure pretty much exclusively. Porn made for men is unethical

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It objectifies women.

Ewiz does?

Porn made for men