Klaze's Use of Moderator Powers to Gain Tactical Advantage in Mafia

At worst this is a gray area and Wintermute is unfairly calling you out for it.

I dunno I specifically stated before that no one should close.my threads but me. And people just did what they want.

But I’m over it ima just be a game player.

I understand that side of the argument, but I have yet to see a game where players don’t talk after hammer. Both are equally destructive to the game imo.

Fuck being on some chill shit.

The alternative would be people talking for potentially hours after hammer. Would you want that?

Klaze was acting in his best interest as a scum player, but if he didn’t lock the thread and epok counter-claims after hammer that’s not good either.

Scared, I destroy all the phones
Somewhere on the other lines lies a girl biting her lip
Shut the door, we’re in her warmth
Mother earth has something up her sleeve
I want to see you before
I tell mom and dad how much I see in this

All of a sudden, suddenly
All of a sudden-ly
Wires and plastic rose through the air to greet me
I will sleep on a floor tonight
(I will sleep on a floor tonight)

I will admit I was fine with the assist yet exploitation multiplied and grew and lastly grew again
Only to come through the window in the form of a map of the stars
In which you’d use to plan the route he’d take to travel back towards you
It was the gratitude in the air that night that separated every boy from all the men
My proposition: reverse the order
Let me come to your window in the form of a map of the stars

I know I’m not the only one that takes the ground that he steps upon
And throws it to the sky in an attempt to answer all the I wonder why’s
The skull is what’s inside, the brain matter, it spews tonight
I want to feel you breathe

The pavement, itself, it melts, it melts itself
What I want, leave that out of this
As if Ken stood there atop his pedestal built upon the distraught earth
It was demanded of me to ignore all I see in this
But before the punishment took hold, the degradation of my sky
You came to my window in the form of a map of the stars

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Being blanket against threads being closed by mods at hammer while simultaneously wanting people to stop posting after hammer doesn’t work.

Honestly anytime a thread’s been locked on hammer seems legit because every time the host hasn’t shown up for nearly 6 hours after hammer.

Think you gotta adapt your rules, man.

Your like deciding the rules on your own. Day has always ended when the host closes. However I don’t mind closing after a hammer instantly. But that was not the current system and rules as written.

Additionally, I don’t plan on hosting myself for quite some time. I am a bit burned out. I think I want mafia to be run differently and I can’t force that on everyone. I try to write rules and people just ignore them.

this was as explicit you got after Low Priority about which kind of rulebreaking in particular bothered you

i inferred that you meant the thread closing but you didn't really make it obvious that that was the main thing that bothered you

i assume people posting as if game had ended before you had explicitly ended the game also bothered you, but that's something that personally i don't see a reason for either: if town votes wrong in lylo and scum players know it's over, i think it's fine that they declare it over and can't see a game-integrity reason to avoid doing so.

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Who cares about holding this against specific people

We are past blaming Klaze and Klaze should be past defending himself. What happened happened

What I want is for moderation to be set up in the right way and then rules to be enforced.

People will keep posting if the thread isn’t locked cuz they’re idiots

So either don’t care if people post after hammer or adjust to reality

Or spend more time writing the bot to handle hammers and eod etc (which is work and will essentially remove most of a hosts work) hosts become moderators

It’s not the main thing. it’s the disregard for the rules in general

You can make up your own minds but I honestly wasn’t considering my personal gain from locking/not locking the thread when I did so, but as I said earlier, it would benefit me having the thread open for longer from my point of view.

what other rules have been disregarded?

The reason this isn’t cool is that sometimes town doesn’t know the mechanics

It’s the wrong precedent to set

But I get why it happens

That’s why I’m trying to make the bot handle some of this stuff to bridge that gap