Ignore the haters.
The show is really quite good so far.
Do not regret watching.
Will watch again.
i read that it focuses more on like cgi and making it look cool rather than story, confirm or deny?
The story is good. It's not LOTR canon, but could still be true.
Amazon is telling a story behind the story.
Give it a chance. Stop watching if you don't like it.
ive only watched 3 episodes of hotd but rly like how thats told. is it comparable?
I gave up on game of thrones.
Did not watch. Sorry.
s8 was bad but hotd is really good
Hotd is incredidhl3
Worst post
Whole thread of discussion on whether it's good, people's general thoughts, discussions of episodes
Show up in thread: Did n't read the thread but is it good? Should I watch? Can u guys repeat again the posts from above?
new lotr show bad
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Looks like I was right about everything.
Spoiler
Stranger is a Blue Wizard, they will make him into a gay ass Gandalf/Dumbledore knockoff (suddenly he can speak, but only in witticisms?), give him a "Arya & The Hound" plotline next season, whole show becomes knockoffs and references
Sauron was Halbrand (of course), Galadriel fails to actually tell anyone so that he can show up again next season and forge the 9 rings for men
Isildur alive (not pictured here)
Didnt read.
Thanks for not spoiling.
Going to watch tonight and read your post later.
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Really liked the last episode. It closed up more loose ends than I expected.
@big_ass Don't put down the plot too hard.
It is way better than the direction taken by the writers of the Star Wars / GOT / Marvel shit.
I heard that Netflix pitched an idea to make it into a Marvel style bunch of huge movies with all that shit.
And HBO wanted to recreate the movie, but with 10-12 one hour episodes per book.
Thank God the Tolkien family told them to fuck off.
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And the ending song is worth listening to.
ah, so galadriel turned sauron into an incel and that's why he's the manifestation of evil supreme leader of mordor
Game of thrones has been ruined. Abandon game of thrones
Something interesting I am thinking about after reading my own posts again.
Hobbit girl + Stranger fail as a stand-in for Arya + the Hound mainly because I don't feel any connection to the hobbit girl. It's very obvious to say the two here are simply "less nuanced" but I want to figure out exactly what that means - why it feels like you don't really care about/identify with the hobbit girl the way audiences did with Arya.
I think the actual reason is that with Arya we experienced growth. Actual progression, improvement of skills, etc makes her into a real human. And she experienced suffering - she experienced failure, she lost her family, and so on. So I guess it felt like she was coming from somewhere and going somewhere rather than just, in the hobbit's case, Along For The Ride.
In fact, many characters in this series are Along For The Ride in the sense that they exist mainly as exposition devices - they are there to give the viewer a window into certain plot points that the writers want to show this season, sometimes take some action to move the plot along, but lack real agency/humanity in that they aren't really growing or developing and therefore we don't really identify/care for them.
Black Elf Guy: Exact same character at the start of the series as at the end. Write out a list of facts from your first meeting with him, those facts will be basically the same after 8 episodes. His entire company dies and we literally don't care, it's just moving the plot forward.
Single Mom's Angry Ethnic Son: Yes stuff happens to/around him, but he's kinda the same person when all's said and done. Contrast his arc (if you could call it that) this season with an alternate arc: When the battle prep starts, rather than spending time on dumb shit like mopey arguments with mom/going with his friend to steal food from the town, instead do a Training Scene where we see him learning to use a sword and getting beaten up by Black Elf. Add a few of these and then give him not just a Payoff Moment in the final battle but actually make him a different character - a soldier. Having Galadriel say "Your A Sholdier Now Keep My Sword Haha" isn't a payoff to his "arc" lol
Galadriel, even: Actually same character across the whole series just has one scene where she gets mad at the one guy. So her whole plot was just "Give audiences someone to follow through our reveal of Sauron, and make it a little surprising" (She's deceived so we're supposed to be deceived. Of course, I was not, as I am a very perceptive TV viewer. But you, dumb reader, may have been.) She has some loss and shit but it's all background, it's not actually stuff that happens in the series
Did anyone in the series grow and progress? Elrond and the dwarf maybe? It's funny because there's actually no payoff to the dwarf plotline either - instead of resolving the conflict they spent 6 episodes building between the dwarf and his father, they Deus Ex Machina the tiny sample of mithril into enough (presumably) to cure the tree. (Actually now that we think of it they didn't resolve the tree plotline either did they. They didn't do shit this season other than kill Isildur, which they'll have to undo next season because he's a core part of the plot, and reveal Sauron, which was extremely predictable and ham-fisted.)
I guess all that's left is Elendil (Isildur's dad), who appears to experience serious loss and serious character changes as a result (though they kind of rewind them with the final scene with the queen - could easily enter season 2 with him being the exact same character. The queen also is a good example - real loss, real development.) Just goes to show that these are the two characters we actually care about and are actually interesting at the end of Season 1.
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I will further rewrite this plot to make these characters interesting. Mom should die in the final battle - not the explosion of Mt Doom but the orc battle before Numenor arrives. (This parallels Ned Stark's death and establishes the writers' willingness to actually kill core characters.) This solidifies the bond Black Elf and Angry Ethnic Kid built in the earlier training scenes - Angry Ethnic Kid now essentially becomes Black Elf's padawan, season 2 they become Rangers and roam the Southlands together, with some plot around Angry Ethnic Kid growing into a real soldier while also trying to control his emotions/dark side, all of which we understand/empathize with because he lost his mom in the orc battle. It plays well into the established personalities of the two characters - Black Elf the stoic & stern master, AEK the failed prodigy. It's a blatant rip off of Anakin but hasn't been overdone and hits those Arya notes they clearly so desperately want to find.
Just my 2c
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