No-nonsense Day 3 & Postgame (Official)

[Hype]

Valid, I will continue to believe day should end with no kill in the situation you were in. I've not played with a ruleset where hypothetically just 3 mafia votes would have killed.

[LuckyArtist]

We can vote nolynch but no one ever wants to

[Hype]

unaware that was option but it should be considered equal to not voting and in that situation you would've tied.

[big_ass]

Largest vote always rules at day end even if it's not majority

Majority just results in instant lynch

That's basic mafia 101 except in like Town of Salem I guess

[Hype]

?

Vote

[big_ass]

Now that I think about this I feel like at some point on the old site (many years ago) this was a point of discussion and it was decided it's better to process lynches like this so that the game will still progress when there are afks or something

Don't recall all the details

But you are right maybe this isn't standard everywhere but it's been standard here for long enough that I dont remember it ever being any other way

[big_ass]

Night 1/Day 2 analysis.

In Night 1 (scum chat will not be shared) differences in skill level between the mafia team players became apparent. Ironstove was reading kkat doc right off the bat and wanted to NK him. Nyte enters and leads them onto dan for some reason (probably a personal vendetta?) and they roleblock someone else.

KKat, to his credit, asks if he can protect himself, but ends up protecting jdance.

@ironstove

I was pretty surprised to see lucky was lynched, even more surprised that he was a cop so I started reading and then going back to recheck some claims.

I am going to make my case here for dark Matty while I am going thru so I don't have to do it again tomorrow.

Matt initially opened very towny, but then he started doing this WIFOM about being mafia and partnered with X over and over throughout thereafter to mock people who were suspecting his slot and obviously not making any real effort to scum hunt. You can clearly see him showing signs of a big scum tell by constantly going on about how he town reads everyone because that's the easy mafia play

@Matticus

Still townreading all players in the game. Will let everyone know periodicallly when I've updated reads.

After I call him out on this, he makes another post to posture how he's going to come up with some scum reads or analysis:

@Matticus

I am still townreading everyone in the game, but starting to feel annoyed and that makes me start to scumread. Beware.

I remove my vote from lucky artist because I was reading his slot as a PR. He breadcrumbed earlier that he was a PR, but Matt ignores this, pretends not to read it and then says:

@Matticus

All of that for an unvote? Dios mio

This is where I left to go to bed, I see in that interim he keeps pushing lucky's slot knowing he is a PR because he wants to pressure a hard claim and when lucky asks him for his justification for the vote he says:

@Matticus

Because I'm scumreading everyone in the game rn

Which contradicts his earlier posts. He just did a 180 and provides no analysis or explanation for anything. He's just operating like 1D-brain'd scum trying to chase his carrot objective and tunneling.

Yet later in the game he couldn't help himself and makes this post in closing implying he was playing stupid and already knows that lucky is the cop because he quotes the word 'partner' like he's talking to a detective:

I'm just happy you moved me to the back of the list. I will comply with your commands from here on out. @LuckyArtist Sorry "partner".

Day 2 - unfortunately, you all play too passive and ironstove again takes over the thread. He's a very good scum player - he puts the sus on matty (also saying "you shouldn't have lynched your cop - a train he somehow started but wasn't on when it left the station") and most of the thread buys it. This debilitates the one remaining capable town player in the thread. Almost everybody is reading the game wrong at this point.

@Event_Horizon

@brendan We lynching Nyte or Hype?

NMA, to his credit, correctly reads Nyte. But he's too attached to his personality vendettas (keeps getting distracted by Hype) and nobody takes him seriously.

@Event_Horizon

After cheating on TS we this it's a nyte/jdance/+1 scum team.

@Event_Horizon

Who are the Brendan scum teams. Dependent on his flip, who are the n2/d3 role blocks,docs and lynches?

TeamSpeak Alliance (Jones and NMA on one account so it's fine) completely paralyzed & outplayed by Brendan. Can't believe this keeps happening.

@mafiabot

Nyte has dropped the hammer on Matticus

Matty dies day 2 after being absolutely pwned by the mafia. Town in shambles.

I think the one takeaway from this day could be that town could take a little more time with the lynches. From here the days get very fast and town is floundering. I think in general you guys go along too easily with a scum case when lost ("follow the leader") rather than going back and rereading the thread. Maybe rereading day 1 you would've picked up on some stuff, idk.

Whether matty should claim (doc) to live here is pretty questionable. I think it would've just revealed the real doc and resulted in matty's death anyway so I think dying was the right choice - Matty's play was fine, he did his best.

Night 2/Day 3 - Less to discuss here, at this point the game is an autopilot win unless town can pull out a sudden turnaround. Scum is hunting for doc with the div kill. Brendan thinks NMA is the doctor but Nyte (the roleblocker) overrules him and blocks jdance. Krazy protects jdance.

@Hype

@mafiabot vote krazykat

Scum realizes they can rush hammer with 1 town vote. Hype obliges and puts the vote on (on the town doctor) but Nyte is not around to hammer.

@ironstove

Town need to kill scum today so eh should be the lynch.

This is going to get me killed tomorrow but I am the doc, eh fake claimed and I thought it was to bait a night kill on himself as a town player, but the fact that he is still alive today tells me he must be scum.

I doubt that a VT would have survived this long, therefore given the situation town is in, we should lynch EH first because town cannot afford to mislynch again.

I will target whoever but I'm certain I am going to die tonight, but that's fine, I don't think I can postpone the claim any longer incase someone else is mislynched. I also recognize there are still 2 other scum in this game.

Ironstove play is pretty next level. I think KKat needs to do this at the start of this day. It's lylo, people need all the info. Maybe it would create a showdown (scum can cc and maybe kkat dies) but with ironstove claiming first it really puts kkat in a bad position.

@ironstove

The reason town is in this position is because lucky didn't hard claim cop before he got lynched he just said you're all so bad and left. Actually lucky artist is bad because he didn't clear himself with his claim with a doctor in the game that could target him.

This is right btw. If LBJ just claimed before dying the game would have gone completely differently - KKat could protect him every night, town would have 1 known town player, a chance at a cop check if he doesn't get RB'd, and a chance to lynch a non-town or narrow town's POE day 1. Probably the worst play of the game by LBJ right there - basically griefing in order to be like "haha you guys are dumb for lynching me" (meanwhile it's scum driving his lynch).

@Event_Horizon

The mafia is Nyte and Hype.

@Event_Horizon

@ironstove Take your vote off moron. Mafia can just triple vote and hammer on me to win here.

@Event_Horizon

With Ironstove and Brendan as confirmed town,

NMA paralyzed. Every single person stove pushes reads him as town for it lmao

@mafiabot

brendan has dropped the hammer on event_horizon

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Vote Count

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Lynch	Votes	Voters
event_horizon	4	Nyte, BIGMATTHEW, Hype, brendan
nyte	1	Event_Horizon

Not Voting

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ironstove, KrazyKat,

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Alive Players - 7

Majority Vote - 4

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In the end, nma dies and game ends without town ever coming close to properly reading the game and without KKat ever claiming doctor.

Postgame pretty boring you guys seem to just want to argue about nma and jones sharing one account. I have news for you. It's actually better this way (it's called a hydra or two-headed dragon) because if they talk about the game or collaborate in any way they now have only one account to do so from.

I think this game was pretty fair, rules were followed, and there's not a lot to complain about other than horrible town play.

So, to conclude, let's give out the awards:

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Town Least Valuable Player

Goes to @LuckyArtist for failing to claim his role Day 1 and griefing the whole game in order to laugh at how dumb people are for lynching him.

Mafia Least Valuable Player

Goes to @Nyte for generally being carried and being the only scum player to be scumread all game.

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Thanks all for playing - hope everyone had fun and I'll look forward to seeing you in the next one.

[Event_Horizon]

@big_ass

Every single person stove pushes reads him as town for it lmao

Are you saying we're supposed to suspect the unchallenged doctor claim? Stop attention seeking.

[big_ass]

You got completely pwnt this game by brendan and ironstove.

[Event_Horizon]

Brendan cheated and ironstove was carried by KrazyKat.

[big_ass]

How did brendan cheat?

[ilmemmerdelui]

Stop enabling these posters. They lost me the game

[ilmemmerdelui]

Imagine not having their whole team read after stove's immediately obvious fakeclaim

[Hype]

Ty for host bud, it was fun my count was off because at first i assumed RB was town affiliated since it was listed with cop/doc instead in line with scum and RB can swing both ways. Could color code it in future but no one else was tripped up maybe me issue, I also intentionally didn't count jdance till day 3 because it was indirect, though i made comment about it right after it happened. Ultimately I made the wrong choice but wcyd, I asked nicely to not act like scum for 15s and it wasn't possible. I also expected in a do or die kkat would want to counterclaim and out stove after EH folded instantly on his bluff being called.

[Hype]

you were killed to remove the remaining braincells of town, condolences.

[ilmemmerdelui]

A notably lazy host this time for sure. The game ended days ago and they're just now reading the thread.

[big_ass]

At least I wasn't a signed player that didn't show up or read the thread

[big_ass]

Matticus didn't even sign the game and he still had more impact than the website admin

Who apparently only comes to the website if he gets a notification on his telephone

[big_ass]

We have to email dan that the game started so that he will come and play

[Hype]

i mean how much time was saved by not sending 6 copy paste pms.