Semi closed with a twist: Players who are nightkilled do not die.

Instead, NK targets are secretly turned into Tree Stumps (allowed to post, votes will appear in votecounts, but not actually in the game and their votes do not really count). When lynch-or-lose ratio is hit, all Stumped players die and flip together.

Possible Roles:

Doctor - Protect a player from being Stumped at night. Saving a player informs the stumper they failed.

Gunsmith - Give a player a gun. Guns are transferable 1-use Stumpeners.

Armorsmith - Give a player a vest, Vests are transferable 1-time Stump immunity - but you will be Stumped in their place.

Deceiver - Choose a Stumped player. That player will flip Mafia.

Phantom - If a stump when LYLO is reached, does not die.

Silencer - Target a player. If they are stumped, kill them.

Roleblocker - A player of your choosing cannot use their role at night.

Bomb - If a player stumps you, you also stump that player.

Tracker - Watches a target at night. If they use a role, the Tracker is notified.

Prodigy - May choose a role. Become a 1-shot of that role.

Not all potential roles will be in the game. All roles may be town or mafia. A player may have more than one role. There may be more than one of the same role. Roles may be 1-shot, 2-shot, or usable every night.

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What is the use of Deceiver if everyone flips together on ly/lo day?

A player who is not mafia will appear mafia.

Yeah but town will still know the number of mafia players alive and will know that it was a fake flip

The flip doesn't happen until LYLO.

If its lylo with 5 players town know its 2 mafia and 3 town etc

Can you be sure? Maybe it's 1 maf 2 town 2 phantom. What faction(s) are the phantoms?

Is phantom third party? Otherwise it means 1 phantom is town and 1 is scum

No 3rd party roles. Phantom(s) may be town or scum.

Ok then deceiver is useless mate. At lylo announcement town know how many scum are really alive and really dead irregardless of phantoms.

It's semi-closed. Number of scum is also hidden. Deciever's not useless (if it's in the game).

It doesnt matter because if there was more scum lylo would have happened earlier.
The only use I can see is slight confusion but since real mafia flips too in that case its not worth a PR slot cuz the confusion is too little.

Might take it out. But flip chaos is cool.

another gay setup yay!

Can create confusion about which one was scum

Does a stump know they are a stump?

you must @mafiabot host to make it a signup thread

Stumps do not know they are stumped unitl they die in LYLO.

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