It was just that one post when I quoted him and said that that reminded me of you.
I just can’t help but feel that the Dominican Republic of Congo is the place I’ll end up
18564 <22:09:07> notjones: nma has mental issues
18565 <22:09:09> notjones: 100%
18566 <22:09:13> notjones: serious mental issues
18567 <22:09:22> notjones: dark triad
18568 <22:09:26> notjones: he jsut brngs up
18569 <22:09:27> notjones: psychopathy
18570 <22:09:31> notjones: Goy Club Neuropathy
18571 <22:09:56> notjones: ok
18572 <22:09:57> notjones: like
18573 <22:10:00> notjones: we have to categorize
18574 <22:10:01> notjones: mental issues
18575 <22:10:08> notjones: cuz retardation is obviosuyl a tthing
18576 <22:10:24> notjones: what about like
18577 <22:10:29> notjones: phobias
18578 <22:10:46> notjones: but it’s a defect
18579 <22:10:48> notjones: would you say like
18580 <22:10:51> notjones: arthritis
18581 <22:10:53> notjones: isnt a sickness
18582 <22:10:56> notjones: because it’s natural inflammation
18583 <22:11:03> notjones: a disease?
18584 <22:11:07> notjones: it’s an illness
18585 <22:11:15> notjones: no, im in lpq
18586 <22:11:43> notjones: what about like
18587 <22:11:43> notjones: a person
18588 <22:11:48> notjones: who is raised in solitude
18589 <22:11:51> notjones: lives alone forever
18590 <22:11:54> notjones: never learns to socialize
18591 <22:11:57> notjones: that’s mental
18592 <22:12:13> notjones: no, I mean like
18593 <22:12:15> notjones: raised with wolves type
18594 <22:12:19> notjones: think their wolves
18595 <22:12:22> notjones: that’s not retardation tier
18596 <22:12:31> notjones: it had nothing to do iwth
18597 <22:12:36> notjones: the brain physiology
18598 <22:12:40> notjones: but it’s to do with development
18599 <22:12:52> notjones: it’s to do with construcctions built in the brain
18600 <22:12:55> notjones: in regards to social crap
18601 <22:12:56> notjones: etc
18602 <22:12:59> notjones: that’s a mental illness I think
18603 <22:13:18> notjones: like “deviation from the norm”
18604 <22:13:22> notjones: but it’s negative
18605 <22:13:27> notjones: but the deviation prevents them from doing something
18606 <22:13:27> notjones: n
18607 <22:13:31> notjones: i dont think thats right
18608 <22:13:37> notjones: cuz arthritis is an illness
18609 <22:14:01> notjones: what about like
18610 <22:14:03> notjones: stress related effects
18611 <22:14:04> notjones: ont eh body
Nicely put.
I have no mental issues, I’m the most healthy person I know.
i didn’t read anything but this is a lie
Nmagane is completely stable. People with mental issues usually aren’t…?
As far as I can tell he is the most stable person here?
There are plenty of people who have genuine problems and I know several of them - however, a lot of these issues stem, predictably, from certain exterior conditions.
I think it is fair to call these mental conditions or mental health problems, but not mental illness. Depression can not be put in the same category as alzheimer.
I think the primary reason of a percieved increase in these problems are neither due to some biological deterioration nor a “greater knowledge” or ability to spot them.
Here I agree completely with the great doctor Kaczynski and other great minds before and past him. In fact, it is well documented, not only by such “extremists”, that our society is harmful to us. Stress, for example, is widely recognized as a great cause of mental, even physical, problems. We treat the symptoms of stress, we medicate stress and we teach how to manage it but we never root out the core problem it self. To Ted this would be technological society and oversocialization, to socialists and communists it would be capitalism. Others, shallowly, attributes it to a certain weakness present in our generations, caused by bad upbringing or a lack of authority. While this, at least in my opinion, holds a great deal of merit - it merely scrapes the surface of the issue.
Medication and therapy are of great help to the individual but come at a great cost to society, a society which is already pushing the limits of its cohesion and stability (not to mention the planet). Following is a quote from Ted himself in his manifesto:
““Mental health” programs, “intervention” techniques, psychotherapy and so forth are ostensibly designed to benefit individuals, but in practice they usually serve as methods for inducing individuals to think and behave as the system requires. There is no contradiction here; an individual whose attitudes or behavior bring him into conflict with the system is up against a force that is too powerful for him to conquer or escape from, hence he is likely to suffer from stress, frustration, defeat. […] There is no contradiction here; an individual whose attitudes or behavior bring him into conflict with the system is up against a force that is too powerful for him to conquer or escape from, hence he is likely to suffer from stress, frustration, defeat.”
There is no doubt that the dependance upon others, the ever-increasing demand for subordination, the false platidudes of “resistance”, the boredom, death of creativity and commodification of love - all exemplified by the typical worker bee strolling around his office, his white-wall studio or deadbeat factory job, leaves us with a painful wound stretching from our hearts and minds straight in to our souls. To quote Marx, we waddle around in “the icy water of egotistical calculation”. Unfortunately, all we are left with is our perseverance. I do not think there is a political solution to this matter. That is my opinion.
I think this is all I have to say on the topic.
Shut the fuck up
I still hate kaptenrobert
So many angry fucking people
next post18612 <22:14:10> notjones: say you have too much cortisol in the blood
18613 <22:14:12> notjones: etc
18614 <22:14:15> notjones: that’s an illness
18615 <22:14:25> notjones: it’s not related to external factors
18616 <22:14:32> notjones: err, external pathogens
18617 <22:14:33> notjones: whatever
18618 <22:15:03> notjones: the technicality of it being illness
18619 <22:15:08> notjones: isn’t really important
18620 <22:15:19> notjones: define it as X
18621 <22:15:21> notjones: it doens’t matter
18622 <22:15:26> notjones: mental X
18623 <22:15:31> notjones: but the X is obviously negative
18624 <22:15:37> notjones: and has impairment on the life of the perosn who is affected by it
18625 <22:15:55> notjones: take like
18626 <22:15:58> notjones: original position
18627 <22:15:59> notjones: type idea
18628 <22:16:19> notjones: it’s like this idea for generating morality
18629 <22:16:26> notjones: you don’t know where you’re going to be born into
18630 <22:16:29> notjones: what caste, class whatever
18631 <22:16:34> notjones: you build the rules for moraity before you’re born
18632 <22:16:42> notjones: you naturally build rules that benefit the common denominator person
18633 <22:16:49> notjones: because that’s what you’re likely going to be born into
18634 <22:17:20> notjones: a large part of our itneraction with the world
18635 <22:17:22> notjones: is how we observe like
18636 <22:17:25> notjones: deviations frm the norm
18637 <22:17:40> notjones: well I mean
18638 <22:17:43> notjones: for the average person
18639 <22:17:50> notjones: you and I could not understand
18640 <22:17:51> notjones: a person
18641 <22:17:53> notjones: wanting to be tortured
18642 <22:18:25> notjones: you necessarily have to
18643 <22:18:41> notjones: you don’t give your child candy for every meal
18644 <22:18:42> notjones: beacuse they want it
18645 <22:18:44> notjones: you know better
18646 <22:20:02> notjones: i dunno
18647 <22:20:07> notjones: its obvious you’re not adjusted to society
18648 <22:20:13> notjones: nor am I
18649 <22:20:20> Nmagane: Nothing wrong with that
18650 <22:20:32> notjones: the adjustment is largely because of the way we think
18651 <22:20:50> notjones: ideologically, but also in regards of how we interact, see things, whatever
18652 <22:20:50> Nmagane: I don’t know how I think - Or if I think at all
18653 <22:21:03> notjones: well you aren’t adjusted because you’re blind or crippled
18654 <22:21:19> notjones: it’s a mental/cognitive element
18655 <22:22:13> Nmagane: What is that element ?
18656 <22:22:29> notjones: cognitive processes in the brain
18657 <22:22:31> notjones: idk
18658 <22:22:36> notjones: your limbic system could be misadjusted
18659 <22:23:08> notjones: it’d probably be best to define mental illness as like
18660 <22:23:18> notjones: some sort of
18661 <22:23:32> notjones: like you’d define inexperience as being something that owuld prevent you from
getting what you want
No one cares about teamspeak conversation
18662 <22:24:06> notjones: inexperience, general looks, physical ability for jobs, partner, idk sports
18663 <22:24:36> notjones: in the context of physical illness, a large portion of “ilness” would be you p
reventing from doing what you want in everyday life
18664 <22:24:43> notjones: effecting your functions, etc
18665 <22:24:43> Nmagane: The “issue” being purely psychological makes it Not an issue - it’s a societal
“issue” but that could be called a Society Illness instead of a Mental Illness.
18666 <22:25:35> notjones: mental illness would just be the catch all for anything related to cognition
18667 <22:25:35> notjones: idk
18668 <22:25:45> notjones: there’s probably an argument out there
18669 <22:25:53> notjones: well there fundamentally is
18670 <22:25:56> Nmagane: sure - but its Fundamentally a Negative Connotation
18671 <22:26:30> Nmagane: for deviating from the norm as you said the definition of illness was ; It woul
d be creating illnesses based on Society
18672 <22:26:43> Nmagane: which makes it a Societal Illness as I said above
18673 <22:27:11> notjones: oh my god
18674 <22:27:16> notjones: fucking
18675 <22:27:16> notjones: nyte
18676 <22:27:24> Nmagane: whats wrong
18677 <22:27:36> Nmagane: she probably has a lot to say regarding this topic
18678 <22:29:01> Nmagane: I think I won this debate.
18679 <22:29:27> notjones: idk i might have to talk to her
18680 <22:29:38> Nmagane: whats going on?
18681 <22:29:39> notjones: they classify like
18682 <22:29:42> notjones: “negative thinking”
18683 <22:29:44> Nmagane: I need to know
18684 <22:29:44> notjones: as mental illness
18685 <22:29:46> notjones: nowadays
18686 <22:29:51> Nmagane: Yeah
18687 <22:29:59> notjones: when you say “it’s all in your head, it doesn’t exist”
18688 <22:30:02> notjones: that’s pretty much CBT
18689 <22:30:19> notjones: but CBT doesn’tw ork for everything
18690 <22:30:29> notjones: if you want to conclude that CBT-treatable type stuff
18691 <22:30:35> notjones: where it’s systematic ways of thinking or whatever
18692 <22:30:38> notjones: isn’t really an illness
18693 <22:30:52> notjones: then whatever, but there’s tons of stuff that isn’t particularly treated well
by CBT
18694 <22:31:00> Nmagane: It might be too hard to make general statements
18695 <22:31:10> notjones: like, PTSD and stuff like that is obviously a mental illness
18696 <22:31:12> Nmagane: Because there’s obviously Crazy People
18697 <22:31:17> notjones: obsessession I would say is a mental illness aswell
18698 <22:31:28> notjones: substance abuse
18699 <22:31:28> notjones: prolly
18700 <22:33:37> Nmagane: Is ptsd an illness or a body reaction? Don’t know - Topic for another time. I j
ust googled what CBT meant
18701 <22:36:57> Nmagane: I just can’t stand the idea of Mental Illness after Terry Davis
18702 <22:37:13> Nmagane: he was not ill; but everyone said he was.
And what? It doesn’t fucking matter. Nothing we say or do matters.