Supas dying words were epok is scum
I dont want to play with nyte. Lucky is cool
Our gunsmith gives the gun to scum
Also me being awful town is debatable. I'm aware that I'm actually townier as scum than as town, because as scum I make an effort to come off as towny, whereas as town I don't give a fuck, and my default non-faked townplay often gets me scumread. And I'm not going to be humble and say that my lynch and read accuracy isn't still better than 90% of the players here
but yeah faz has a point when he said I'm scummy, that's by far my biggest weakness, to make natural towntells
Also if the game randed on sdad day1 we d likely lose.
Town would get a gun, dein sucked I d be leftaone.
Thanks for host osiris. I gave you a lot of shit already about it hahahah
yeah the game was high variance for sure, imagine if he killed one of us with the SK convert, there would be no SK at all and 1 scum remaining
Gonna preface this with you're right, I forgot I actually leaned hard into scum supa towards the end. I thought you had made the posts about planning to shoot and heal me, but you just supported it. Anyways, here's what I put together showing my d2 push on you and why I gave up and went with supa (hoping scsf would shoot you or you'd get voted up day 3)
Reiterating that you are doing scummy things
I see this dumb shit, it never goes away all game, and I know he's never going to change his mind about it. Not even worth posting at him.
Reiterating you were playing the exact same way you did last time you were scum
Explained why what you were doing this game was different from what you did last game after some people said you did the same thing last game as town.
Pointing out everything you were doing da y2 was trying to just distract town and you were scummy day 1
Then we've got this moron saying he's not even going to read the arguments IC is making about why someone is scum.
Pointing out that LBJ replies to you saying I haven't been there all day, even though I had been arguing with you for a good hour or two earlier in the day, and you just ignore it, letting him think I'm afk and not doing anything for town.
I definitely fucked up here. I would've gone back to you later, but then scsf had the gun claim and I was just hoping I could convince him to gun you down because I STILL SEE NO FUCKING REASON FOR TOWN TO LIE ABOUT HAVING A GUN
I make another post pushing you as scum because of your interactions with ian.
And I get this bullshit in response. I didn't scumread him for it, because he did the exact same shit in LBJ's nightless, claiming me making big ISO posts (like the one I'm making right now) is scummy and he didn't read them.
I come back after working for a while, and see people flipping onto ian, who had towntold pretty fucking hard for me
Point out for the third time that you're not town-sided because you're doing shit like "1 BLOCKED POST" and posting screenshots of your ignore list. I didn't think I need to elaborate more on why that's so out of character for you, but I guess I was wrong with this town crew.
I disappear for a bit to work more and come back to:
And now I'll admit you're right, I was scumreading him probably around the same amount as faz after I read this. I thought it was you who made this argument, but it was supa instead. What an absolute moron
Then I point out how you going along with it is absurd and out of character, especially because you were the one pushing the whole "two kills" thing from the get go.
I was still worried you were jester, so I place my vote on supa, dip, then come back at EoD to tell scsf to shoot you one more time, hoping that'd lead to you being killed that night (WHY WOULD TOWN LIE ABOUT HAVING THE GUN WHEN THEY'RE NOT UNDER PRESSURE?) or maybe people would follow up on it day 3 considering you egged on one of the stupidest fucking plans ever conceived, especially when you were peddling the "there's definitely 2 night kills"
I read the rest of the day, saw all the bullshit going on, and just had no motivation to play anymore. Had I made a big fucking post like this, it'd have gotten dismissed like it did last game with people refusing to read it (absolutely fucking frustrating, big ISOs like this win town games). But yeah, I probably ended d2 before the flip with scum probability in this order: you >>>> supa > faz
I could've put more effort into it, but I did not want to interact with supa or scsf whatsoever (arguing with you was fine).
I never said you're bad at town. I think your town play can be pretty clearly shown to be driven by town instincts, but you can't fake that as scum. It seems so forced every time.
Edit: I'm clarifying that I think you're very good at towntelling. I don't think you're very good at making the highest EV mechanical plans, but as town you always try to and you always explain the reasoning why. As scum you just seem to float them and not push for them as hard. You make the mechanical posts as both: they're just not believable as town tells when you're scum.
When I've got people like supa and scsf on my team, what the fuck am I supposed to do if I'm not making twice as many posts as any other town and browbeating them into seeing what's pretty fucking obvious (so obvious that you felt like you had to call it out too or you'd look scummy if sdad flipped)
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I was clearly making a joke, you might not be as smart as you think if you can't figure it out
you should ping people you think are town to convince if they are on different wagons
think of yourself as a lobbyist
i always ping my townreads to try and consolidate onto a wagon
I didn't have time to play much at all d1. The criticism of me not pushing or doing work d1 is completely true, but it's not true for d2. I just wasn't on constantly and gave up when enough dumbass town were doing enough dumbass town things
well i was dead d2, so there u go