you don't give a shit about abortion you don't give a shit about womens rights you're only arguing to puff up your chest because you think you're "right" in terms of legal technicalities, not even precedent or necessity or protection of "people"
why would you propose this? bad faith
The idea here is that the inability of the state to govern the bodies of men in regards to pregnancy does not lead to an argument of bodily autonomy under "sexism".
it absolutely does
you're a fucking moron
you realize i'm not simply allowed to remove my reproductive organs, even if i wanted to?
hell i can't even simply tie my tubes if i'm married
You're not allowed? There's plenty of medical procedures that could do so -- have your tubes tied, a historectomy, chemical sterilization.
The state of California allows you to sterlize children under the guise of trans rights and you're telling me you can't find a medical provider to make you infertile?
no, i am not reasonably allowed to - this is another way of saying that if i want to get it 'professionally' done (and not likely kill myself hacking my insides out) i probably can't without searching quite far for a doctor that is willing.
california is a bit more liberal than your dear alabama, its true..
that doesn't mean that many hospitals aren't functioning under more conservative(religious) influences
you are so petty to have this argument
the bottom line is you dont' give a damn about women, or abortion
you don't give a damn about children being born or aborted
you don't give a damn about the moral or ethical concepts of the law in this regard
Alright, so under what conditions would "bodily autonomy" be able to be superseded by the state. Can a woman who is
A) pregnant
but is also
B) psychotic
and wants to have an abortion legally have one? The state has assumed guardianship over her due to psychosis.
What is the solution here under a framework that is justified under bodily autonomy.
again, you don't give a damn about an unwanted child
youre more interested in policing or the IDEA of policing a fucking womans body than you are about what ACTUALLY happens to the child thats forced into the picture - and if we start at the "beginning" of this childs picture, it - for all intents and purposes - starts at sexual intercourse.
so when you wanna be a real man about this, talk about the whole picture
otherwise shut the fuck up and let women make these decisions as they were for many years with no issue to you whatsoever.
How about this one.
There IS ONLY ONE WOMAN left on earth.
She is pregnant, but can bear no more children after this one. The human race's continuance is DEPENDENT on her successful childbirth.
She wants to have an abortion.
What should be done here?
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shes the only woman left
probably too many of you existed and killed too many women
i don't give a flying fuck what happens to humanity in that case
1 woman exists in a world full of men? LOLLLLLLL
so what, she has a male child in her womb and humanity is saved? are you really so fucking stupid that you're trying to have "this" hypothetical argument about the moral and ethical demands of the situation? give me a fucking break
i would bet a lot that if this woman was the last woman on the planet or in existence and she's pregnant with some small amount of men and the child is female, she's going to want to keep the child. there's enough evolutionary precedence to bet on that more safely than not. otherwise, consider if the woman is the last woman on earth and there ARE men on earth and she WANTS to abort her child it's probably because humanity reached an utterly irreversible point of failure - probably as a result of this sexism and control you're talking about. i can't imagine a world where a woman wouldn't want to birth the last human child in hopes of rebuilding the human race.
you're fucking stupid.
if the last woman on earth is pregnant with a male child and this somehow saves humanity it sure as shit sounds like these methods of procreation (child raised in utero) aren't fucking necessary. stupid
go back to math and programming jesus fucking christ
Let's assume that the child is female -- thanks for pointing that out.
Let's assume that just by chance she ended up being the last woman left. Every other birth just happened to be a man by random chance.
How about this one.
There exists a woman who wants an abortion on Monday. On all other days of the week she does not desire an abortion and eagerly awaits her new baby.
This is all known to an abortion clinic.
The baby is to be born on a Tuesday.
The woman walks into an abortion clinic on Monday and requests an abortion. What should be done here?
it's not chance, and if humanity is saved by 1 woman i don't think her in utero birth was necessary. again, stupid fucking argument. your ego is insufferable - you are so mind numbingly self absorbed.