Trump vs Harris debate September 10

You know, Gay Men, who single-handedly created a monkeypox pandemic, who were unable to stop fucking anything that moved to not keep from dying en-masse, proliferating AIDS to insane levels.

Yeah I use the same type of argument to rid myself of Gaza genocide concerns -- it doesn't actually affect me.

There is nothing more low agency than the idea that to form an opinion, an idea one has to be "affected" by it -- like some sort of hand has to descend out of the ether and smack me in the face. The only legitimate way to live your life is to tumble through the air at the whims of the wind until you collide, SMACK, into the ground -- whereupon then you're at liberty to make a decision or have a thought.

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nobody likes Kamala she has no hope the old polls say so!

oh she just raised a quarter billion in 24 hours

asoul you sound more deranged with each passing day

stop @ing me bro i dont care

Yeah if I was a rich industrialist with multiple factories and properties I would be a raging liberal too. It's just smart economics. Mass import cheap labour increase your asset values ez pz

Yeah the IQ gulf between me and you is probably too large.

He's a Canadian liberal they're dogs that bow to authority

Your bodily autonomy stops where my vaccine begins.

LMAO

how are you so daft.

"if womens bodies can't be governed why should mens" you fucking absolute asshole. womens bodies can be and are governed, so go make your own legislation submitting yourself, or return the previously enshrined interpretation of the law to it's former status so that the safety of women/s bodies is more returned to them.

absolutely fucking braindead shit
but sadly, you are deeply sexist and that's the unfortunate truth to many many humans, thanks to centuries long conditioning.

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(read: i'm painfully aware that i'm low value and can't preform my sexual duties as a man which men are defined as being men for, and women are defined as being whores for)

it's ok to be gay dude
it would solve your hate-of-women issue

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Bark bark bark :dog::poodle::dog2::paw_prints::syringe::syringe::syringe::syringe:

Ok. So we're working within a realm that the state can intervene on bodily autonomy.

Propose the legislation -- because there is plenty of law that criminalizes removal of a condom, etc (does this lie within consent?). But that's birth control -- abortion isn't birth control, you've lost if you've followed that path.

There's no legislation that can be applied to men whatsoever... because a man can't have a baby!!!!!!

One can either legislate birth control methods (which they have) or legislate taking care of the child (which they have)

You're proposing something that cannot exist! That you have no idea what it would be! And is completely unworkable in reality!

I think all of this is just a facade, some method for you to make yourself miserable, and if you're lucky, everyone around you.

you're so fucking shitty and you know it

you know there is no legislation that can or will be written (definitely not in any reasonable time). you know that yourself and other men will never submit to better solutions for the protection of unborn children (the best solution is preventing semen from fertilizing an embryo) so men everywhere interested in the SaNcTiTy Of LiFe can go do their due dilligence and submit their bodies to government so that their testicles can be pinched off until such a time that they are willing and capable of caring for their wanted children

this is of course under the premise that womens bodies will remain under governance AS THEY CURRENTLY ARE, but let me tell you, why would women worry too much if they were many hundreds of thousands of times less likely to conceive if men do their part? it would certainly open up plenty of more safe conditions for people to attempt drafting real legislation protecting bodily autonomy for both men and women.

men will never step into the shoes of being equal partners and respecting the issue. so put the protections back, and step the fuck back. the way things were in the period of roe v wade did nothing to hurt you or this country.

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must have hit a gay nerve

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There are plenty of men who have vasectomies? And it's a medical procedure.

This is preventative and is birth control, it exists before fertilization. There's literally nothing that is workable in both reality and under a reasonable philosophical construction that can exist for something that happens post-fertilization. That is the entire point of abortion -- it is post-fertilization. Whatever legislation you want cannot exist.

You yourself realize that the idea that irradiating your balls in insane. It's PREVENTATIVE. It has NOTHING to do with ABORTION.

it PREVENTS ABORTION is the point and men would never be willing to look at solutions where they themselves are subject to bodily governance in order to do so

engaging with you on this is so fucking stupid and in such bad faith by you

So does sterilization? Should that state economically incentivize the sterilization of populations that have higher incidence of abortion?