If you admit that even one person at one instance was able to access that mathematical structure that exists in a metaphysical space, then consciousness is not contained in the physical brain.
That's not how this fucking works. You just said all of mathematics is false. You either need to provide a proof of that claim or stop making that claim. That's how mathematics fucking works
Seems like you should be nicer than this if you are asking somebody to explain something to you that you don't understand.
the mathematical structures in your cognition are not isomorphic to the real mathematical structures.
proof: most philosphy/mathematics historically, has been determined to be wrong.
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Shut the fuck up you stupid shit. You don't know anything about whatever you're talking about at any point in time. You get proven wrong and buried in citations proving you're wrong then just engage in bad faith, moronic posting. You are scum
Nevermind i got out without having to get angry at him. Kind unfortunate and boring. I love to bark at customers
you may as well be going around saying asking mathematicians to prove to you ZFC is consistent before you believe them. i didnt say it was wrong, i said mathematics as implemented by humans is not isomorphic to metaphysical mathematics. but im willing to believe in mathematics as implemented by humans.
This is not true. It's been proven that for any abstract mathematical object there exists a well-founded formal language with a set-theoretic structure that is isomorphic to that object.
Wanna fucking make a citation for that? Because it's blatantly not fucking true. What was the method of proving it wrong?
you are not implementing well founded natural (formal?) languages.
You don't get to make this fucking claim unless you can isolate a flaw in Godel's proof. I'm waiting
how do you consider that proof??
you would HAVE to necessarily be saying ALL math i s wrong for that to be proof
You're right, it should've said formal. But why is that not being implemented? You realize well-founded natural languages are a different condition from consistent axioms, right?
actually i read that wrong, my bad
is religion part of philosophy?. i declare most people who believe in deities are literally wrong, which is kind of necessarily true since their religions contradict each other.
Camera's are run opposition to goodles "proof"
What's your educational background with respect to science, math, philosophy of science, and philosophy of mathematics? Not just formal, but self-education as well. And what form did the self-education take?
godel implicitly assumes humans are doing "real math" through cognition. humans are not doing real math through cognition.its not fundamentally different from formal language symbol shuffling machines. do formal language symbol shuffling machines have consciousness?
Has anybody in this thread even had an ego death
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Just me?
This is why you have to be careful if you go to school to study math and marxism. Much of what you learn could be completely wrong.