Anti Trumpism general

What?

trump lying, spreading false information?

this is a really ignorant take

do you think people just start doing bad shit to each other out of thin air? no, it starts with words, specifically hateful, dehumanising words. you view this as silly or not a serious issue because you have lived a very sheltered life and have not had to live through this shit. again, see above post.

or maybe you can tell victims of the khmer rouge, a group LARGELY radicalised by hateful propaganda blasted at them through speakers 24/7 encouraging them to arrest and kill anybody with any type of middle or upper class job. blasting them 24/7 with FAKE NEWS telling them these people were AN ENEMY THAT NEEDED TO BE EXTERMINATED.

why dont you tell the people who have lived through that about your constitution nd “its just words lol”

fucking ignorant

its just words bro lol

if you think baiting me into typing a wall of text makes me angry its actually quite the opposite, i love talking about this shit

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lmao

unfortunately insom brings up a good point there. wish i could read a post from u where u show that Lib'ral how you're secretly super empathetic but also resilient enough to not let words bother you

@murs why is my brain poisoned? i dont mass consume “liberal media”

im not even americna

unfortunately? :pensive:

The problem with the Trumpian take on the media as fake and lies is it leaves it at that. It makes no effort to understand the media further and understand its problems and their causes. Hint: it is not evil liars or even incompetence. With an understanding, you can engage media and be wary of what you are looking at and judge accordingly. What the "lies" and "fake news" approach does is just give people license to conveniently reject evidence from media even if your reason for doing so is not good enough.

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It’s not hard to be skeptical but being skeptical is harder than just turning ur brain off

well said

@murs
"" who do u think runs the new york times.

i don't mean some anti-semitic conspiracy, it's all rich assholes that want more power and connections.
to even work for a top media company in nyc u basically need to be a trust fund baby cause they don't pay well and u need connections.

that's why these media companies are filled with neoliberal hawks because invading other companies and robbing them of their resources is the only way those assholes and their friends get richer and more powerful. it's what they grew up knowing. ""

okay I understand your reasoning but I just take issue with the idea that NYT is brainwashing everyone who reads it, if that is what you are suggesting

the only clear example of that in the USA to me is FOX news

NYT does BIAS the people reading it.... to be against trump, more LGBTQ inclusive, nicer to women, etc. I'm not sure I see much of the evil stuff NYT is biasing people towards but I'd love for you to tell me

I've read too much stuff about "Gay propaganda" and "Trans propaganda" coming from trumpists to think that their problem with NYT is some deep seated systemic brainwashing issue, especially considering the fact they usually consume FOX themselves, or even worse, conservative podcasters/youtubers/grifters like Tim Pool

this is not directed at you personally in any way, just trying to make a point based on a personal observation

its not worth talking with u cause ur not going to change ur shitty takes

uhh... ok

are all the reports now claiming he spoke an "unusually high amount of times with Putin" also fake news? is everything that isn't /pol/ fake news? What do you consider real news? I just don't get it man

This guy insom prolly reads the wapo

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and here we have the central problem