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When is? Because this argument gets made every single fucking election
not by me. i wouldn't argue this for every election. this is probably the only eleciton in my life so far where i'd argue this.
i also have 0 recollection of this argument being made in 2008 or 2012 so idk what you mean about every election. i think you're exaggerating here to support your narrative.
no that's iNDo0R_5T0RM, pretty clear in the profile my dude
They were super prominent in 2012 when I told people I wouldn't vote for Obama since he murdered an American citizen without a trial. "But Romney is a fundamentalist and you must hate gay people!"
thats a completely different thing from what i said.
No, it's exactly the same. I was being told I had to vote Obama even if I disliked him because the alternative was an existential threat to any left-leaning values
trump inarguably mishandled the covid19 crisis. regardless of how marginally you think someone else would have handled it, it certainly wouldn't have gotten this bad. thats probably like tens of thousands of deaths that coulda been avoided if he wasn't in office at this time.
not to mention how hes fucked our foreign relations. I guess we dont know for sure how that's going to pan out going forward but i cant imagine it'll be great
well thats not really what im saying. im not saying you shouldn't abstain from voting because of a treat to left-leaning values. i think the consequences are far bigger than just left values here.
if only left leaning values were at stake and nothing else i would think this is a fine hill to die on.
I mean, yeah, that's all true, but the same argument gets made every election cycle that we have to vote for the right-leaning Dem no matter how shitty they are, because the far-right Republican is just so bad
well i think in like literally every other election cycle in my life time that argument wouldn't be valid but right now it is.
And this argument gets made every time too. "But this time it's just so much worse than the last time." Guess what? The reason it's worse is because we keep shifting right because the Dems refuse to move left
you care more about being pure than the outcome.
don't think ewiz and purity go hand in hand friendo maybe volition
like the democrats wouldn't put a postmaster general in place who wants to dismantle the usps and cripple vote by mail before the election
also who tf was saying Romney was worse than george bush this doesn't sound true at all to me. ive heard that from literally nobody not even the neoist of liberals
if ur not a voter politicians are gonna care about ur vote less
imo the best strat is to push rly hard for farther left candidates in primaries but still show up when its center-left dems vs unacceptably bad republican.
sorry don't mean to interrupt the productive discussion regarding the endlessly recurring giant douche vs turd sandwich conundrum
But the mods are playing a bit of revisionist history here by editing my posts and the results, while pacifying, are kinda disingenuous as far as the message I was trying to get across to man of the hour @insom
