Disagree big time. Polls matter, votes in past elections influence future ones.
People are much more likely to vote in a close state than a one sided one, if they think their vote doesn’t matter they won’t vote, which has a butterfly effect on all future elections in that state/district or what have you.
Votes, even ones that have no chance of changing an outcome, STILL MATTER
ah shit, too late
ya it wouldve mattered if the california result for hillary 2016 read
8,753,789 instead of 8,753,788
uh huh
the only way this argument even gets close to compelling is the "well if everyone thinks that way" line of thought
well im not blatantly advertising for people to not vote; im just posting on forums about it when people get all self-important about their vote
and yes continued warning that you wont get anywhere because ive heard all your arguments before, probably
yeah! I DO think it would have mattered! just not very much
I’m very much against rationalising away positive changes one can make on the basis of how insignificant they might be
im a big believer in the concept of noise vs signal and learning to recognize noise vs signal
im also very much against rationalizing inordinate amounts of time spent on political "awareness" with self importance and the perception of having meaningful impact
Sorry if you feel like what I’m saying is noise, I try to live my life in accordance with all my beliefs. I vote, I stopped eating meat, I try actively to reduce my own emissions.
I’m not ‘acting’ a certain way, or trying to use this topic to belittle others, I really do care immensely about all this stuff, it’s actually quite awful.
And you don’t have to change your mind or agree with me, I appreciate the fact you’re having a dialogue with me. That’s good enough for me.
I do a hell of a lot more than just post about politics on nadota, lol.
ya show me your website when its done and ill probably still think its a useless waste of time
And again, I’m not even saying any of that as some type of point in an argument, I just take issue with the way you’re describing me and my motives, because it’s not true.
Sure, I will
im sure you have good intentions
no sarcasm
hearing this reasoning non-voting seems apathetic
it's funny how most who encourage voting are non-americans though
almost like they dont have a direct sense of how fucked the voting system is and how dropping one vote per season within the system is certainly not the way to meaningful change if one wants it
It’s ONE of the ways, certainly not the only, nor should it be.
is voting on local level at least useful?