i don't think its that weird. i think its within the realm of possibility that wolfy is just really bad and i've been mulling over that sort of thing in my head as well. Scary imo, because i don't trust mind-melds.
Lmao
If ewiz isn't scum magic ninja is for sure
He's so disagreeable all game until it's lynching town time
Then he doesn't care and his reads don't matter they're your reads who cares
every scumread on me apart from ewiz saying he found lack of consistency in my emotional control in the lounge thread had 0 thought put into it and it was painful to read.
i believe ive stated my reads. they have not changed. townread magic and ewiz. i dont have scumreads. id rather be accurate or at least try to, instead of throwing off reads on everyone.
why would i not think i should be townread? what kind of question is this hbotz, and what kind of answer do u expect that can provide useful insight.
Klaze is town btw
And hbotz
Who has he disagreed with aside from you/wolfy? I don't really trust him right now: echoing reads and saying that he doesn't trust mindmelds seems a bit sus to me.
@magicmagininja, why call it disconcerting that you're mindmelding with me (throwing a minimal amount of sus onto me), when you're the one echoing my reads?
cuz ive lost lots of games where i mind meld with ppl. I'm not sure that its entirely rational.
for example, i say again iaafr townreading you immediately on opening is right out.
i get that the filler opening isnt scummy, but surely you dont think it can be read as explicitly towny?
and osiris reads u and ewiz as tvt. i see you also read u and ewiz for tvt. do you think trying to flip this to ian makes osiris towny?
i dont know about osiris or stuff
iaafr knows me better than anyone and we've talked for hundreds if not thousands of hours in DMs on discord
if he is town, i would expect nothing less from him other than correctly townreading me.
If this is true, shouldn't you scumhunt and fish for scummy reactions? It isn't baseless to read you for not doing what town should do.
I want you to explain what is towny about your reactions. I never saw a coherent defense of yourself, just getting angry and saying you're misunderstood. Typically, towny reactions to a weak sus on a weak opening is brushing it off.
Even past that, scumhunting and applying pressure around to get reactions is towny. I didn't really have a scumread on you when I started pushing. I pretended to have one to see your reactions to it and other peoples' reactions as well.
So, when you don't have scumreads, shouldn't you throw out random susses and see how people react to get scumreads? Especially on a low info day one. In this set-up it applies more in general: I think the setup without nks makes this a low info game. The only concrete info scum gives is the nominations on even days. This makes the information much harder to parse (3 people's interactions to parse, and some of them could be scum), so reaction testing is very important at any phase of the game
This is also my most likely read on the situation now. What do you think that implies about me and wolfy?
Are you saying this from the point iaafr made the post or in light of everything that's developed since @iaafr made the townread on wolfy?
i dont believe in scumreads. u dont get to say what town should do. i am yet to see evidence of you understanding how to play mafia and producing results
no, i dont want to do that, because past experience has shown me that it doesnt work. ppl can do anything. i dont think u can accurately nail scum, ever. whats given me best results is just finding town. i dont care if u disagree, but if you disparage my choice of playstyle after ive repeatedly asked u to consider that your playstyle isnt necessarily the best one, dont be surprsied when i feel alienated, because you did admit yourself that you did it on purpose
thats for the other plays to identify.
u cant ask me to play mafia for other people, lol.
What? For the same reason you can't accurately nail scum ever, you can't nail town ever. And scumhunting by throwing out susses and evaluating reactions can give towntells as much as scumtells. How is this misunderstanding how the game is played? Town has zero info, scum has full info. Only by reaction testing can town move towards information parity (though never achieve it)
Well, no one can identify it. @Osiris provided no real reasoning, and @ian explicitly said he has no reasoning
no. i dont agree.
there are behaviors and stuff that scum cant fake. or cant fake well
while town can be idiotic enough to do literally anything, absolutely anything