Carnival of Horrors Mafia Day 1

at the moment of posting, iaafr's townread on wolfy is senseless and at best is just a nai throwaway read, though wolfy claims iaafr would be capable on getting towntone vibes :thinking:

i think flipping off wolfy to ian is rather dangerous because if he flips

because as town you are genuine. genuine people can be literally anything

scum isnt genuine. if u think about it its obvious. townrange is way bigger than scumrange, inherently, for everyone.

Getting people to engage in those behaviors can only be done with throwing shit out and judging reactions. I said that in the very next sentence:

Do you think your response to my pressure couldn't have been faked as scum?

town [i think he will] we will have quite a lot of trouble in wolfy/ewiz/etc.

no, it doesnt have to be that way. u dont need to give people aids in order to identify them as town. u could if u want, but dont be surprised at the reaction.

thats your job to decide, again.

That's true, but we do get slightly more info day 2 with nominations that could help us sort that. I don't think Ian flips town, though.

Ur problem is thinking ewiz is town

Think of it like this. If ur right about me and wolfy being town, what are the odds ewiz molds the day into a choice between two towns. He'd have to either be incredibly stupid or mafia to have that much confidence on something that's wrong

Well then, you're just going to do nothing and see if people towntell? This leads to a very passive game that benefits scum. Why would this be your strategy, especially on a zero info day 1?

"not giving people aids" isnt equal to "not post", lol.

I've also been throwing out susses on sdad and magic. Sdad in particular has been bothering me and I have a scumlean on him. How is this forcing it into a two town choice? Especially when I've moved to null/town on wolfy? I very much expect the day to be a thunderdome between me and whoever I sus most, since I'm playing the most aggressively

Yes, but your posting is useless if it doesn't bait out information for town

if you change a little bit to "your posting is useless if u dont attain good reads" ill agree

please stop lecturing me on how to play mafia and play however u want and dont enforce yourself on me.

At the moment of posting, it makes sense to me. It's a metaread on iaafr, but he throws out super low confidence reads constantly and changes them constantly (as both town and scum). That's why I'm so interested in his reads now: he flip-flops so much and so much happened

What does your posting do to attain good reads?

if u had seen me in my prime u wouldnt be talking shit

Also, I didn't say not giving aids was equivalent to not posting. You can try to towntell. But that's low info compared to trying to get others to scum/towntell. Town needs to do whatever generates the most info through posting, because there's no info from PRs or NKs and the nomination info is obfuscated

Stepping away for a bit after @sdadasdas finishes his post. Wolfy is starting to really frustrate me, but I think he's just dumb town tbh

Wow, why are you getting frustrated ewiz? I don't think it's anything to get sensitive over.

@electrowizard please explain to the town why are you frustrated.

I'm honestly quite split on Ian, I don't know how to read the guy to be honest, he's fooled me twice as scum and the one game I hard townread him he was scum.

Wolfy had a weak opening. I scumread how he was upset about how his grand entrance to the game didn't give him a blanket townread, I find his recent anger kinda genuine though so idk.

As of you, I can get behind most of your posts you seem to have a genuine worldview. Almost too clean as I said earlier, but that could just be a change of character since I haven't played with you in a long time.