dotakyles game #1 day 3

[big_ass]

I'm going to be honest and say this once and then we won't talk about it more because I don't need an argument

I think the way dotaKyle handled himself and hosting this game was pretty immature and I don't think he's justified in his moping

It should be pretty obvious what I was doing: End of day 1 hit and faz was dying town with me defending him all day, I really needed to live thru n1 as cop so I started posting the scummiest shit possible to try and convince scum not to NK me overnight.

Then d2 same thing if I could convince scum that I was just an idiot and get an extra night as cop that would be hugely beneficial to town, so after I got my lynch in I started saying how I was ruining the game and shit and I wasn't actually cop and actually the setup is crazy and DotaKyle is griefing us and all manner of other shit in an attempt to scumtell enough to not die that night.

As I was doing this I realized Kyle's a little fragile and I sent him this message:

@big_ass

by the way I am not serious what I am posting about you in the thread. I am trying to convince them again not to kill me so I can get another check

Because I didn't want him to feel I was being mean to him or anything. I was being considerate

So then DotaKKKyle posts this in the thread while the night is still ongoing

@anon82208883

The town comes together and lynches @epok the Vanilla Goon.

Final warning to @yns + @big_ass

Stop with the setup shit or i’ll just zeus you, it’s getting real old. If you’re low IQ and can’t manage to figure out how to use your role, or you’re butthurt with how someone is playing. Don’t pm me and say “i’m just trolling” how about you stop fucking trolling.

Using out of game bullshit “anger with the setup” isn’t something you should be town telling with. Hunt scum, push scum, find town, clear town.

Attacking me for a setup which faZ, iaafr, and kkat have said was fine is quite fucking annoying i’m very close to just prematurely ending the game since everyone doesn’t want to play.

which basically outwardly confirms to scum that I was fucking around at EOD and said something to Kyle about it. So here, DotaKyle really did grief his game.

Now let's examine what DotaKyle is actually saying in the context of his actions. Kyle regularly rages out of games, uses anger, threats to leave the game or threats to never play again as a means to towntell or manipulate people in games. So this behavior is OK to him. The behavior that isn't OK to him is saying "wow this setup is crazy" in a closed setup and "DotaKyle Griefed Us!" which is basically a meme.

The actual reason these are not OK with him is that he feels personally attacked even though it's not even a serious thing and I went out of my way to make sure he didn't feel attacked. So he reacted to feeling personally attacked as the host and gave extra information in the game and I don't think that's OK.