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Thats not true. She made that up for some reason

STOP GASLIGHTING WHEN IM TALKING ABOUT COOL CHURCHES

You should get a couple architecture photography books! You can find them used sometimes.

Also you and Matt should come to STL just to look at buildings :^) i’ll buy yall a drink

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Kepee Your Woman in line please..

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We both know I'm the one keeping him in line

Cool buildings always excite me lol, they dont make em like they used to anymore

They don’t make almost anything like they used to, me and my brother talk about this a lot. There are still so many appliances and consumer products from the 70s-90s that work fucking perfectly lmao, and they’re aesthetically better usually!

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Yeah, it sucks because you know for a fact its just because its cheaper and they make more money if people have to replace them

Bad news bro. Your girlfriend is a ■■■■■■■

I only you had said something about modern appliances being bad because they're not repairable because they're optimized for industrial manufacture... instead you're a dimwit regurgitator... unfortunate.

bet this guy’s had a novel thought, ever, in his life.

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Its funny because I literally implied that in the first part of my post by saying they are made cheaper, but he apparently has the reading comprehension of a toddler who wants to vague post at my boyfriend by replying to ME instead without even @ ing him

I'm just pissed my chill thread was ruined by some angry whiny baby attention seeking

Oh you implied that. Okay that's alright. On what metrics specifically have appliances declined. It's very obvious that in terms of things like safety, availability (poor third worlders deserve rice cookers), and energy efficiency appliances have improved vastly.

Do you have any hard examples showing widespread decline? I could imagine PE buyouts, etc. but everything made in China circa 2026 is effectively best in the world.

For instance the existence of 70-80s appliances today doesn't really indicate anything: there are trenches of this stuff in landfills that you never encounter. One really needs to show failure rates/quality failures over the entirety of the production run.

Those arent the kind of things I really look into heavily and pay attention to the specific metrics from, but I CAN tell you my statement comes from the pretty simple and easy to come to sentiment of its obviously cheaper to mass manufacture things than to make everything by hand, and most companies usually use the cheapest materials they can, pretty basic stuff its not like something I read up big on

Obviously something made in a factory with whatever material is easier and cheaper isnt going to be as good quality as say, the nice table someones grandpa handmade with lots of time put into it, bc its just not as sustainable for companies to spend more time and money to make those products

Compare this to the experience of flying: 70-80s flying is a vastly superior experience to flying today, but that's because poor people can now fly. The service is worse, but the planes themselves are technically better in every way. I am suspect that something as technical as manufacturing would produce worse products 50 years later.

Do you not think IKEA furniture is good? You're comparing boutique, custom work to stuff that is mass produced. It's apples to oranges.

I dont know I havent gotten ikea furniture in awhile but I do agree that my comparison isnt exactly on the nose it was just the best example I could think of off the top of my head, I guess a better example would be when we had actual people making stuff on assembly lines