fuck the police general

@insom what do you think about gun control?

Ahhh, so we just boycott the police?

Wait a second.

Gandhi, MLK, Rosa Parks, Women's Suffrage, Kent State, Singing Revolution in the USSR

To act like we don't have a long history of successful nonviolent protest in the US is wiping away the legacies of some of our greatest heroes

And my further point stands that the actions these guys are taking (looting and burning things down) are not going to help them achieve their goal. In fact they are going to alienate the majority of Americans resulting in loss of public support of the movement

The entire point of MLK's nonviolence was to bring into sharp focus the violence he experienced by contrasting it with his own nonviolence. It was extraordinarily effective and swayed the hearts of many Americans - to the extent that today he is revered and his legacy taught throughout the country.

Though evidently that teaching does not cross the borders to reach our friends to the north.

personally i think the state should have a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence. you can of course complain about the way the state is using violence as inequitable or whatever. but ideas like "just defend yourself lol" seem very regressive to me.

if a mob of protestors are occupying your property, do you have the right to open fire with an automatic weapon? no, you dont, because the state has a monopoly on the use of violence.

in favour of far stricter regulations and making certain guns illegal to open carry

i'd probably be in favour of making all guns that don't use 9mm ammo illegal to open carry tbh but the American people would never go for that so i'd settle for semi automatic rifles

i'd also ban all future sales of pretty much everything that isn't a low cal pistol, while still letting people keep what they have and use them in places that aren't public

some people are big fans of hunting rifles and shotguns

well anyways it sounds to me like you believe in institutions, but you think the institutions need to be reformed. very cool. however your non-disapproval of violence is being mixed in with the rhetoric of people who do not believe in institutions, i think.

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i'd probably outlaw travelling gun shows as well since they have a horrible track record of selling people guns who weren't properly cleared or vetted to use them/not doing background checks or anything like that

far more invasive background/mental health checks

maybe unnancounced inspections during a 1 month period between when you decided you want to purchse the gun/when you actually get it

i dunno

not non-disapproval more like understanding and just not bothering me as much as other people

i'm far more bothered by police violence

Agreed with all and also I think Casey's guns should be taken away

idk gun control it seems very hard

one counterargument for all this stuff is that guns used illegally are not acquired by legal means. so regulation is just stuff to make u feel better but changes nothing. not sure if true.

Based on his posting on this website I've diagnosed him as a potentially dangerous and irresponsible gun-holder.

this is a stupid argument that i'm really against

you can illegally acquire bombs and poison too, doesn't mean they should be legal

but yes it's pretty much an impossible problem and the best you can hope for is to make things slightly better each year little by little, that's it

there is no easy fix

i look at it similar to climate change

you can't outright fix the problem only make it less bad but you should still do everything you can

but they are practically legal. theres regulations that make you feel better but you can still bomb or poison people pretty easily.

thus some may say that regulations line actually distracts from the real issue and makes the problem worse by presenting a false solution

yep its the same thing as climate change. provide people a token solution like more efficient cars and they start forgetting the sheer magnitude of the problem.

yeah but the point is those hoops you have to jump through do prevent deaths caused by those things

especially because people who want to commit murder usually don't plan it out, it's usually a spur the moment thing

they're not always that way, and if they have enough hoops to jump through there is a decent chance they won't feel that way when they finally get the thing they were gonna use

more efficient cars isn't a token solution, it's the first step in a very long process

but it's still a step worth taking