I was out in DC getting teargassed and fucked up by the cops for multiple weeks. It's the same shit, just a different place
How do you know? Local situations are not necessarily the same - in Portland local police were ordered to stand down completely, Seattle banned the use of tear gas and rubber bullets.
Have you been permanently blinded, had your hands impaled by nails, and cut to the bone by a pellet gun?
Are you posting without eyes??
Fascist playbook:
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Frame your opponent as "other" - something scary and not quite human which can't be interacted or reasoned with
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Paint your opponent's actions (speech, opinions, thought, existence) as an existential threat to you & your "in group"
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Justify your own violence against the "other" as a necessary evil against this existential threat
Electrowizard a fascist?? How can that be? I thought he was anti-fascist?
How interesting. Attacking a federal building? Why might they do that?
Is it perhaps because they want to incite a federal response in order to continue painting themselves on social media and in the news as victims of the police in a city where the local police have been ordered to completely stand down? The federal government is mandated to protect these federal buildings.
Same in DC. Didn't happen in either place. Here's just last night in Portland: https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1287318217833230336?s=19
And then they used it anyways https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/how-ambiguity-and-a-loophole-undermined-seattles-ban-on-tear-gas-during-george-floyd-demonstrations/
The local PD hasn't stood down. And before the feds came in, local PD had been doing the same shit for a month. It just wasn't picked up by CNN/MSNBC/Fox until the feds started brutalizing the protestors
They're attacking us in the streets. We need to defend ourselves.
- Never framed them as an Other. Hint: you can't make a structure of society an Other. Policing is a structural institution.
- It's not their speech, thoughts, and existence that are a threat. It's what they're actually doing to us in the streets, y'know, their actions. We're not gonna sit idly by while they pepper spray, teargas, and flashbang us for standing in the place they designated just to make a point.
- Self-defense isn't the same as aggressive violence. Trying to make it harder for them to hit us with their shit isn't the same as shooting impact rounds and using chemical weapons
i have done some consideration regarding the argument that violence is necessary for / a symptom of change because the establishment doesn't care about your peaceful protest unless your peaceful protest starts destroying value (by occupation, or literal destruction)
not confident it is true but i retract my argument that "marginal violence is not tactically correct because it gives the opposition fuel" as i am no longer confident that is true either. maybe the seriousness invoked by the violence exceeds the loss of moral support from people against violence.
so now i have no comment regarding violence. the other things like demonizing the enemy blah blah is standard strategy for all things so no comment there either.
war is scary tho. every last one of you people is crazy, you people being everybody except myself.
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i mean u are going to blind people if u shine lasers in their eyes. it is explicitly illegal to shine lasers in people's eyes i think.
its just war (ideological, semi-literal) 
I mean, this was still a bad line of reasoning before. If you look at the protests past the first week, the opposition was beating and gassing us when there was no violence. It was just to show force. Retaliation after weeks of that makes sense: the opposition already has unlimited fuel so self-defense is necessary
Not really sure what the end-game is here.
What will the government have to do to make them stop protesting?
It seems like a lose-lose for everyone involved.
maybe nothing will appease the protestors, but possibly they will try to do something to appease to protestors (perhaps to stop the violence 
). this would be win for the protestors i guess. better than nothing?
I agree. It is a scary situation and it seems like it is escalating and will continue escalating. That's why I see reduction of violence on both sides as the priority
Major defunding of police and actual accountability for police. Ending qualified immunity is particularly important, but that was created by a SCOTUS decision (to protect low level aides in the Nixon administration from being sued over Watergate) so there's big pushback on that. Plus, police unions too stronk
The orders for local cops in Seattle and Portland are already major concessions for the protesters
Those happen to be some of the worst cities for the violence
You guys have good arguments as to what needs to be done.
My issue is that some protesters will never be satisfied. They will keep protesting no matter what.
Glad I don't live in one of these cities, or even worse, work in a protest zone.
The orders for local cops that are given explicit loopholes so they can keep doing what they were doing? They kept using tear gas after those orders. The PPD is still out on the streets gassing people now: they haven't stood down
Why do you think this? There have been zero meaningful concessions made, so why would the protests stop? How can you know they won't if there are actual changes that are demanded?
Cops do this shit and asoul still thinks "the protestors are at fault too." How's that teargas ban in Seattle going, asoul?
https://twitter.com/NLG_Seattle/status/1287425604296433665?s=19
Love to charge down protestors and beat them as they run away
https://twitter.com/RetiredMaybe/status/1287556217955483659?s=19