Michael Jackson Was completely INNOCENT.

i dont even know or care what elvis did

ok i hadnt looked into leaving neverland but its apparently quite a bad look

whyd they lie under oath man

leaving neverland is weak sauce, compared to the michael innocent infos, leaving neverland is just emotional appeal based off baseless accusations

i havent watched it but just on a very basic level i find it harder to believe that the 2 filmmakers spent all this time making up lies and learning how to tell them emotionally convincingly than the alternative

the accusations are also extremely detailed and theyve collected some evidence (faxes, voicemails)

yeah till they all fell apart in criminal court.

no the evidence they collected for the film goes beyond that

if you’re going to claim to have evaluated both sides on this one youre probably gonna have to read up on whats in the film or just watch it

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anyway stance changed personally he’s most likely guilty

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Without having watched the video in OP, I have looked into this here and there before and found some compelling evidence on both sides

Specifically, the story I found and believed was that MJ was just a deeply broken guy that was still a child at heart and wanted to surround himself with children. And that the lies started with some weird shit from his jealous sister or something - some crazy stuff and he was just so weird that the world ate it up

However, sometimes I read something on the other side and feel like that’s not the end of it. For example, he slept with the kids (in the literal sense), something about a porno magazine on the coffee table, had friendships with some of the well-known h-wood pedos, etc

In the course of this one thread you went from he’s completely innocent and I’ve read a ton about it to he’s most likely guilty I just read some other thing

I feel like I’m in a mafia game with you

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Going to go read all the posted material and then I’ll tell you the thing I remembered that you guys probably hadn’t read about

just off of some two guys one of which who swore he was innocent before and then when his career fell apart he sued the jackson estate for 1.5 billion?

yea i know

the recent documentary seems universally convincing based on the emotional affects of the families being interviewed and filmed and i dont think its a long con by the 2 filmmaker/victims

i dont think u go through years of therapy just to lie for money

probably locking this read in

i am basing my opinion on the fact that a lot of people who watched the documentary were convinced that their emotions seemed genuine when talking about all of it

and one of them seems permanently traumatized / still an alcoholic etc

looks to me like they are pulling another cash grab.