i do not care for the opinion of random redditors who watched a documentary and been convinced by the emotions of 2 men. There is not enough fact to prove michael is guilty, there is only enough accusations to assume he might be. And enough emotion to trick people into believing liars.
Itâs entirely possible that they were abused but MJ is innocent
given the psychology of pedophilic grooming i can buy that the kids lied on the stand because they still believed in the love he was projecting to them
theres love letters by mj to multiple boys, a mock weddingâŚ
and some of the only instances he went out of his way to interact with families, while mostly being a recluse, were the families of young boys he specifically seemed to want to court
i mean i just dont think these two filmmakers, who are the alleged victims, make their entire lives revolve around a big lie if its a lie
Everyone is aware that hollywood has a pedo problem right
just the powerful and rich as a demographic in general ye
sacha baron cohen exposed a pedophile ring by accident xd https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/12/sacha-baron-cohen-vegas-pedophile-ring
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I read at one point that MJ had associated with these people (the pedos) and allowed them into his ranch thing and around his little boys until, one day, he learned what they were after (did not know their intentions) and there was a huge falling out with that crowd damaging his relationships with some industry folk
Now thatâs a load of gossip and not worth bunk but I found it seemed truthy and, if accurate, points to him being innocent but these young boys still being in danger and probably some even being abused
failed to expose*
i guess
This I found to be 50/50 some guy just trying to talk his way out of a weird situation with a rich foreign guy asking him to supply child prostitutes
1. There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boyâs house with Chandlerâs mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandlerâs fatherâs house. The parents were divorced.
2. So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: âRubba.â He called Robson âLittle Oneâ and Safechuck âApplehead.â
3. Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlersâ lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something âlong and drawn out.â Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson.
4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jacksonâs penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jacksonâs genitalia. The photographs matched Chandlerâs drawings.
5. The hallway leading to Jacksonâs bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds.
6. Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jacksonâs on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there.
7. According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jacksonâs children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson.
8. The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robsonâs mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jacksonâs company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuckâs parents got a house. Jordie Chandlerâs mother got a diamond bracelet.
9. Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Wade Robson, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time.
10. In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson , Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys.
whatever idc my minds made up not that it rly matters
He could have slept with boys and shared inappropriate pornography but not actually had sex with them
That is still sexual abuse but it is consistent with what corey whatshisname said - that mj just lacked understanding of what is children and adult shit
yea i mean thats what i thought too before reading about whats in the latest documentary
youre gonna have to watch it or find a detailed synopsis to update your opinion imo
I am not really even defending him I just had an Idea that he wasnât (one of them) but really who knows or cares - we agree that the system is sick and full of sick fucks, he may or may not be one of them but either way heâs already dead and is no longer abusing anyone
Well where did you get your detailed synopsis that you changed your mind in 20 minutes
I do not want to commit that much time to a 4 hr documentary. I looked at the wiki
like before for me it was completely plausible that the allegations were all made up by the parents for profit
but now theres 2 alleged victims in their 30s? making very specific allegations including exactly when they were coerced into sexual acts
u have to decide whether or not theyre stone cold liars who are good at pretending to be emotionally broken
this wasnt my source personally but this is what i found through google for the concrete allegations in the films
its elaborate with no proof. held a pretend wedding? this shit seems more like a story book.
So michael got brain washing powers
michael got them hooked on hc
michael started slow then proceeded to oral just like any good foreplay session
michael ensured the boys they were the most important person i nthe world and meant to be.
As they got older he fucked thier ass
safechuck got married to michael im sure nambla was proud
wanted to move the boys to neverland ranch makes sense gotta have them move in
uh oh the ranch is magically reinforced to hide abuse
jordan chanler got it too.
and he cornered the brainwashed family to work with him.
shit is jokes b. they lying hard core.
just googling around stuff related to this and found out anna akana and zoe quinn accused max landis of being a rapist
strange bedfellows eh folks
That isnât Michael Jackson