Stop playing with your phone.
There are no good mafia sites without pagination
If you have a good idea for an alternative solution, by all means, go for it
but the current setup isn’t very good.
The only solution I can think of is being able to enter a post number and go straight to it. That’s like pagination, in a way
You can do that already
Yeah, I don’t think there’s a need for pagination at all when you can skip to a specific post number. That’s the same as skipping to a page
Quoting is shit - no pages. Of course it won’t work, it’s just a prank. Dan said that he’s only using this website to track our personal data anyway
? There's post numbers? And nested quoting is far easier here
shouldnt be hard. i mean if you look at the code every post listed comes as an article with id “post_##”
so it wouldnt be hard to just whip up something in js to append the number found in that id and append it to the child of the element poster-avatar-extra as an anchor to like #post_86 so it just drags you to the post regardless of the post in the url…
https://namafia.com/t/site-design/55/84#post_86
quoting requires two clicks (hidden button) or selecting the text.
The point of pages is visual memory, maybe only for me - but I know that I won’t be scrolling up to reread as much as I would open pages on different tabs
also small tidbit here but i think this software should still pan out for us…like at the cost of having a number on your quote and needing a period to quote posts and having pagination youre getting the ability to play mafia without having to touch the refresh button. i think theres quite a bit of QoL right there for EOD and thats not functionality we’d ever get around to implementing.
theres a lot of manual work to be done to tailor the mafia forum to be what we want, but i think thats okay. atleast theres a way for it to be tailored. if you guys get off your fat asses and help me develop things for it we’d get it done real fast
Lol refreshing is an issue? I thought it was part of the strategy.
Also if you posted on nadota it showed all posts anyway so you enver had to refresh - just keep posting
until you stopped posting…
and yes, it was part of the strategy. i refreshed every time before i posted at EOD to make sure it wasnt staggered or that i didnt have all the details before my post was made. but thats an advantage that i’d have over other players who didnt figure that out. thats not too fair right?
What I mean is - it was such a Minute issue nobody ever even consciously thought of it.
It’s fine if you want to use the latest epic open source coffee shop forum software but don’t make up problems and say you solved them.
I think pagination is something to try to fix. At least for mafia. Might be a bit hard, most likely will require a core fix. We could write a pull request against discourse for it maybe. Not super familiar with their source code.
They refuse to develop towards it or support it I think lol
Sorry, he’s wrong.
Core point of what this guy's saying
Above all else, you should strive to make pagination irrelevant because the user never has to look at more than a few items to find what they need.
which is not true in our use case. User needs to be able to search through the entire thread manually or jump to a location if they are looking for 1 specific thing. This is an area where pagination is appropriate.
I'll also say this site's dogmatic application of a flawed design paradigm even fails by the standards of this blog. He lists 6 caveats:
The scroll bar, the user's moral compass of "how much more is there?" doesn't work in endless pagination because it is effectively infinite. You'll need an alternate method of providing that crucial feedback, perhaps as a simple percent loaded text docked at the bottom of the page.
Endless pagination should not break deep linking. Even without the concept of a "page", users should be able to clearly and obviously link to any specific item in the list.
Pagination may be a bad user experience, but it's essential for web spiders. Don't neglect to accommodate web search engines with a traditional paging scheme, too, or perhaps a Sitemap.
Clicking the browser forward or back button should preserve the user's position in the endless scrolling stream, perhaps using pushState.
Provide visible feedback when you're dynamically loading new items in the list, so the user can tell that new items are coming, and their browser isn't hung – and that they haven't reached the bottom yet.
Remember that the user won't be able to reach the footer (or the header) any more, because items keep appearing as they scroll down in the river of endless content. So either move to static headers and footers, or perhaps use the explicit "load more" button instead of loading new content automatically.
I count fails on all 6 counts.
Twitter and facebook don’t use pages.
It’s just mind control tactics. Do you think they don’t know what they’re doing?