Nobody has ever been "convinced" by a "conservative argument" - gay marriage exists in the US because being gay is widely accepted in the US
Opinion piece writers write opinions that are reflective of how the public already feels (or of the vague opinion/position the mainstream public is supposed to feel)
no, sullivan wrote his piece "the conservative argument for gay marriage" which entails the arguments I listed after judicial activism that bequeathed property from one dead gay to his lover.
this is the advent of emotionally manipulating people with "dying gay man unable to see his partner in hospital because legally married" and "we won't have another AIDS/gay people will stop being degenerate freaks".
Since persecution is not an option in a civilized society, why not coax gays into traditional values rather than rail incoherently against them?
This is basically the same argument put forth today to fill the country with subhuman, idiot browns because "they're traditional" and will "vote Republican".
"Arguments" literally don't matter, probably less than 5 people in the world are going to read "The (Conservative) case for gay marriage from 1989"
Get something better to do than being wrong on the internet. Fucking moron.
"arguments don't matter" when I have Insom reciting Andrew Sullivan's slop to me verbatim 35 years later without having any idea who he is.
You're right. Insom must have read Andrew Sullivan's blog post from 1989 before coming into this thread.
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we live in an interconnected world with an internet which has an infinite supply of "gay stigma". so this point is total rubbish.
LMAO but now I do want to read it, can someone link it?
The only god I recognize is the Omnissiah (praise be)
If only bren was here
Mainstream culture is pro-gay. Gay smegma is a myth
what the fuck's a bren?
What the fuck difference does that make when their are still billions of people (who can and often do post hatred online). Do you think gay people just go "oh well they're in the minority, who cares" when these same people can and often do kill them?
The gay mafia controls pretty much every major organization and conversational outlet (including this forum)
Walk the streets, there are gay flags and BLM flags everywhere. This is the new form of nationalism/imperialism - signalling in-group by flying rainbow brown transgender flag, inflicting embargo on foreign nation for not recognizing gay marriage.
America and western Europe is also not the entire world, btw. Gay people exist EVERYWHERE, you keep viewing through the lens of "Sanfranciso NPR listeners" which is so unbelievably reductive