Trump vs Harris debate September 10

idk you tell me

You're the one who can't stop talking about it. How come you've never given your opinion?

I've given my opinion multiple times about how we must remove all jewish influence from America. what happens in the Middle East is not our concern and we should not support Israel like it is the 51st state and let them figure out why creating a country surrounded by religious and ideological enemies is not a sustainable or good idea long term

Not sure what this had to do with the babies.

anyways why don't you give your opinion on Muhammed

problem is they will literally all be slaughtered, every man, woman, and child who doesn't make it out will be raped killed tortured and cleansed. the fall of Israel would be a traumatic event that would be a literal bloodbath.

that's what would have happened if they lost the war of 1967. Syria and Egypt both had battle plans leaked. The only difference now is those same countries and the palestinians hate them 5000x more than in 1967.

part of the motivation is literally to form a pan-arab state with jerusalem as the capital. it's got nothing to do with their inability to live next to them peacefully, they've never once genuinely tried.

the state was formed in the 20s when Jews legally bought land from the Arabs living there (many who were leaving anyway), and then after enough Jews moved in some Arabs started to panick and get mad and go "omg! too many jews! they will not replace us! kill kill!" that's literally how this whole mess started.

yes they bought land from the Arabs and then made companies and laws where they literally will not sell or lease land to any non jews in the region

thats not to say the Israeli govt. hasnt done some barbaric shit , they have, and they continue to do. but you really have to look at it in their context. their neighbors have been trying to kill them as long as they can remember.

the most famous genocide in history was against them.

before that, pogroms were a common event.

i get why they're hyper militaristic and don't know how much I really hold it against them. I'd probably be the same way if I was raised there.

and then after WW2 when you had Eisenhower bragging about kicking out Arabs and replacing them with jews

I just don't think that's really relevant, zionists say all sorts of wild shit, the fact is still the "Nakba" was a retaliation to like a decade of Arab violence, the state was formed legally, by people willingly selling and getting paid for their land. then the jews there started getting attacked.

to me the "who started it" bit is important.

also it was cold war anti-commie bullshit, israel was a US ally and Syra/Egypt were USSR

its an ethno-nationalist state with a population of Arabs around them that have birthrates that outpace the jewish birth rate and you have groups of jews who sit around who refuse to have jews become a minority in Israel and they plan around how they can remove native Arab populations and replace them with jewish people

and by groups of jews I mean the jews that are running the Israeli government

it's literally not an etho-state though

and that's not even conspiratorial they have made statements to that effect multiple times

Gaza is more of an ethno-state than Israel is

the most right wing coalition in history that more than half the country hates, yeah they have said some pretty demonic stuff. especially ben gvir

Arab Israeli citizens are treated better there than in pretty much any surrounding country, the west bank, or gaza.

it's literally the only place Muslims in the region can decide they no longer want to be a muslim without being beaten to death and killed or at the very least excommunicated by their family

There is a large population of Arab Christians who live 100% peacefully and happily in Israel