hmm? why would the atheist living in a christian country be more of a narcissist
than a muslim?
I don’t think this is exclusive to religion, I think I already said that. It’s anything taught to children - politics - ideas - whatever. This thread is just about religion.
I think he’s saying both of those cases would end up with issues. There’s a definite paranoia associated with being “other” or “different”.
yeah for sure I guess I just dont understand then. I need to teach my kids some things?
Yes, of course you do. But not “We know better than most others” or “This political group is all wrong and bad people”.
It’s common sense I think, it shouldn’t be too hard to figure out the details
I mean it’s common sense that you want to try and make your kids not dicks that feel superior to others for their beliefs sure.
Yeah and it’s a very delicate thing, as in, what you might think wouldn’t result in that might very well do and I think this is one of those things.
probably depends on your environment. if you are in a pure catholic neighborhood sure, but if you live in a more diverse area I would disagree.
But isn’t the more diverse area still only two groups - theists and atheists?
ah i didn’t understand your question. yes it would still be two groups.
and I think we would agree to just disagree that it this is any more delicate than saying abortion is wrong or something like that. and these things are pretty unavoidable?
I think it would still be almost the same result, because from an atheist PoV it doesn't matter what religion another person is, it would just be a label.
They're not entirely unavoidable really, you don't have to talk politics to your kids or whatever, just make sure they don't grow up with a skewed perspective and that's all you need. I don't know what else to say really, it just seems very wrong to not let a kid think for themselves (Obviously they're not going to be thinking for themselves in either case, but as I said before, one choice is more dangerous than the other for development) and make their own decision after reading on the topics, like you and I and most other people have.
Some things are fine to tell your kids and some things are not. I don’t know where exactly the line is drawn, it’s something to do with objective truth maybe - or just stuff that doesn’t actually positively affect children really, it’s not like you’re not forcing them to go to church or bible study, or preventing them from having sex before marriage when they’re 5 years old - - I know that this isn’t fine, that’s it. I don’t think most of us would be the people we are today if not for our religious upbringing and you should really value that even if you don’t believe in any religion. It’s an important life experience and you shouldn’t take it away from your children.
Maybe the future generations wouldn’t get to experience it the same way we did, with all the mass media and internet nowadays, but I think it’s still worth it. If you want to teach your children to be skeptical ; I think this is a good way to do it.
i didnt have parents who were atheists but i had pretty much become an atheist on my own by the time i was 8 or 9. i really dont think i developed any sort of superiority complex. i simply couldnt be certain and decided it made more sense not to believe than to believe, and i honestly never gave my peers' religion much thought.
pretty similar to what a2pas said here
i dont think its at all unbelievable if a2pas says he didnt look down on other kids for believing in god
Of course it isn't, but you don't have to look down on others to think higher of yourself.
That's what I mean by important life experience - not predisposed ideas.
u think youre more likely to think more highly of yourself because of an idea that was given to you, rather than an idea that you came up with on your own?