what if my one employee is happy with what he has and would be against seizing or destroying the business? would you still do it against his wishes? why?
This is a distinction made within capitalism itself: it's not some communist concept. If you even read about the shit you advocate for by the people that advocate for it, you'd fucking know this. Private property is comprised of the privately controlled sources of resources and production.
Then why don't their employees get equal ownership stakes and equal profit shares?
No, there are different ways to focus on profit. eg. short-term gain vs longevity - plus I think once you've lived in the world you realize a lot of people with money/means are using that to create something they think is good and moral, not just extract profits.
Do all employees get equal ownership of the business (or proportional to the hours of labor they put in)? No? Then fuck them.
if you create something good and moral that is suboptimal and acquiring profits i think you will be bought out by someone interested in acquiring profits. you can refuse to sell, but i suggest that its superior to sell and use the money to do good and moral things.
Because I have to go I will also announce that a lot of businesses are not "stealing" wealth, they are creating wealth - in that they are performing a service which the world is better off having and people are willing to pay for
Maybe if you're theorycrafting on the internet but in reality/in practice it's not how the world works
They may delude themselves into this, but if they aren't equally sharing the profit from what they produce/create with those whose labor produces/creates it, then they have other motives at play. And it's absurd that you frame this as something that someone would believe as they gain life experience given how fucking naive it is.
is valve corp. okay? its not quite equal. but i think "equal" is kind of arbitrary. its difficult to measure the marginal value each person puts in.
All companies are fair and equal in the sense that they make you an offer for your time and you decide to take it or not take it. Not everybody has to be an LP for shit to be fair
No it isn't. Your labor hours are how much you contribute. If everyone works a 40 hour week, everyone gets an equal share. Including the janitors that keep their headquarters clean and Gabe Newell.
One person's 40 hrs are not worth the same as another's and you know that
People are paid according to how much value they produce
Lol, just ignore the imbalance of power between employer and employee constructed by capitalism creating a labor pool of cheap, exploitable labor that must work to survive.
ahh, okay. but why wouldnt i slack off if i am paid by the hour? serious question. wouldnt it be less efficient?
Yes they fucking are you dumb shit.
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Because you have equal profit share, so you slacking off cuts how much money you get
You have enough life experience to know it isn't true - this is why I say it's pointless to have any conversation with you as your head's too far up your ass to hear anything that isn't just shit
oh, but this doesnt work out. its a tragedy of the commons problem. in a company of 100 people if i do zero work i may only decrease the productivity by 1% but i have decreased my workload by 100%
It's not a question of life experience: it's a question of whether or not you value someone who is a janitor's life as much as some software engineer's.
bzzt wrongo. The tragedy of the commons problem only applies to shared resources, not shared labor.